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Re: Threads users down by more than a half

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>For how counter-cultural HN has always prided itself in being Really? A bunch of engineering types who work for big corporations and who also dream and or do start their own hopefully big corporations prides themselves as being "counter-cultural?" That seems like a tough generalization to support.

The top-voted comment on any article is usually a comment claiming the article is wrong. We're definitely counter-something.

Contrarian fits the bill

Re: Threads users down by more than a half

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Well yeah. The honeymoon is over and we've seen how morally bankrupt these companies are. Twitter has someone who posted child abuse images (as a warning or something) but doesn't ban them because they create engagement. Meta bought a VPN company and paid people (I think in some cases kids/teens) to use it so they can slurp up their entire internet browsing. Amazon has people pissing into water bottles so the founder…

> Twitter has someone who posted child abuse images Can you say more on this?

Happened just this week:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/conormurray/2023/07/27/twitter-...

Re: Threads users down by more than a half

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It's pretty common that after a peak of new signups, most do not convert to long term active users. This doesn't even take into account that most "active users" tend to never post anything, they just leech. They still count as MAU. I'm sure that Meta has plenty of ways to boost that number in the long term but overall I find the entire thing underwhelming. Threads is text-based Instagram. But not even that as you can…

I'd say I'm surprised by the persistent pessimism regarding Twitter, but I'm not.

I don't think a sizable portion of people are even willing to entertain the idea that it might still having a place in the Internet ecosystem. Maybe not in exactly the same form as pre-Elon Twitter, but still a place.

Re: Threads users down by more than a half

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It's pretty common that after a peak of new signups, most do not convert to long term active users. This doesn't even take into account that most "active users" tend to never post anything, they just leech. They still count as MAU. I'm sure that Meta has plenty of ways to boost that number in the long term but overall I find the entire thing underwhelming. Threads is text-based Instagram. But not even that as you can…

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Re: Threads users down by more than a half

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> It’s becoming increasingly obvious that Twitter isn’t going to be that place with each new chaos monkey attack from Musk, but what the successor place is going to be remains to be seen. First, Mastodon was going to be the new place. It wasn't. Then Threads came along and again everyone said it would be the death knell for Twitter. It wasn't. My takeaway would be quite the opposite. While everything that comes along…

> First, Mastodon was going to be the new place. It wasn't. Just about all the people whose opinions I'm interested in hearing are on Mastodon now. I don't really care if anyone else shows up. Maybe it's better that they don't.

The most technical of people seem to have remained using Mastodon, but others seem to have migrated back to Twitter.

Re: Threads users down by more than a half

#366

It's pretty common that after a peak of new signups, most do not convert to long term active users. This doesn't even take into account that most "active users" tend to never post anything, they just leech. They still count as MAU. I'm sure that Meta has plenty of ways to boost that number in the long term but overall I find the entire thing underwhelming. Threads is text-based Instagram. But not even that as you can…

> Quite obviously because advertisers prefer networks without controversy.

This + less moderation headaches for Meta as political discussions invite the most toxic users

Re: Threads users down by more than a half

#367
Just let it go.

Don't try to resurrect the horse from the greasy spot on the ground where it was formerly beaten to death.

It's all a cancerous detriment to society.

If you wanna talk to people online... Discord, irc, forums.

Let social media die... Let the trash fire burn itself out instead of lighting new dumpsters on fire in hopes of it being the next big thing.

That sort of thing (social media) is bad, and we (human beings) just need to let them go away.

It's all a hives of propagandists, "influencers", shit posting and lonely people seeking external validation shouting into the void.

Re: Threads users down by more than a half

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It’s super funny to see people framing that as Threads failing. They totally may fail. But even after that initial drop (which is expected, for something that managed to get so much hype) they’re likely still the biggest app in the history in terms of DAU in few weeks after the launch. And if there’s one thing Meta knows how to do is to copy successful idea and slowly grind the growth till it dominates market.

There seems to be a desire to watch Meta fail, and that's reflected in the media coverage around Threads. This is broadly true of many large tech companies, but particularly Meta/Facebook.

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Re: Threads users down by more than a half

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This is being reported in a strange way. We don't typically write about startups gaining initial signups and then compare them to the active users as if they lost something by not getting 100% of them to engage. Do we even have numbers for what percent of twitter users actively engage versus total user base? I don't think they are doing very bad considering it's mobile only right now.

For how counter-cultural HN has always prided itself in being, I find it a bit hard to believe just how much the media has shaped the story here. There's a lot of reason to be skeptical... it's not that I like Musk but the media doesn't like him and that's no secret. I find it to be quite the opposite of what you're saying, that their press team has done a good job of shaping the story positively for Meta. The puff p…

Much to your point of media having an apparent dislike for Musk, I had noticed Business Insider dominating anti-Musk coverage. It was so much so that when they published a flattering article about him I was shellshocked.

I think people assume that because Musk is highly successful that he is a normal person, worthy of being judged by such a standard. From the outside nothing seems normal about him to me. He is almost certainly on the spectrum, yet fairly highly functional.

I attribute half of the hatred for him not because of his behavior, but because of the general anger towards the billionaire class.

I think the sharp divide in perception of him shows that polarization within America has reached unhealthy levels. I won't invoke the terms used to describe people believed to be pro or anti Musk here, but I think most know them. I wish we could get to a point where we discuss less about people and more about their individual actions.

Re: Threads users down by more than a half

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It's pretty common that after a peak of new signups, most do not convert to long term active users. This doesn't even take into account that most "active users" tend to never post anything, they just leech. They still count as MAU. I'm sure that Meta has plenty of ways to boost that number in the long term but overall I find the entire thing underwhelming. Threads is text-based Instagram. But not even that as you can…

Elon is trying to turn Twitter/X into the wests WeChat. So at least he’s doing something interesting?

I’m back in the Elon corner. Is he goes down, it’ll be doing something interesting at least.

Meta might have a head start with WhatsApp, but I don’t see them doing anything interesting or well.

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