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US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Curious, why do you "resent" your money going to Apple?

Because they're hostile to general purpose computing.

I don't understand what you mean.

They make an awful lot of their money selling what I'd assume to be general purpose computing devices.

I run mostly mostly open source software on mine. Almost everything made for the linux ecosystem is also available packaged for MacOS or can be trivially built on MacOS.

What more are we talking about here?

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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The link should really be to the original report [0]. This 55% is iPhone's share of phone shipments in Q2, not the number of users of the respective phones at any given time. In other words, fewer people are buying smartphones than were before, but Apple saw less of a hit to their numbers than everyone else did. Contrary to existing comments here, this stat doesn't appear to indicate that people are switching from An…

I'm constantly amazed by how people spend so much of their income on Apple products; it's almost like their lives are ruled by the status they feel an iPhone brings (and the consequential sacrificial purchasing). It likely varies by area and average income, here it's almost an inverse correlation - the less-well off kids at school tend to have parents on iPhones and the comfortable parents are on whatever works for t…

It's quite clear that iPhone is a vending machine owned by Apple sitting in your pocket. Status has little to do with it.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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I'm constantly amazed by how people spend so much of their income on Apple products; it's almost like their lives are ruled by the status they feel an iPhone brings (and the consequential sacrificial purchasing). It likely varies by area and average income, here it's almost an inverse correlation - the less-well off kids at school tend to have parents on iPhones and the comfortable parents are on whatever works for t…

> I'm constantly amazed by how people spend so much of their income on Apple products I don't know about other people, but I went iPhone specifically for the value/$. Got a used iPhone SE 2020 for $150 in late 2021, and expect to use it for 5+ years. I seriously doubt that there are any Androids out there that could get even close to that. It really helps that Apple's CPU/SoC is substantially superior to what everyon…

Samsung's security update model is 4/5 years. I expect mine (a very high performing S21Ultra) to be 5+ years.

https://security.samsungmobile.com/workScope.smsb

My son uses my old S10-5G (the world's first premier 5G phone, released in mid 2019 - ages ahead of Apple), and it's still regularly receiving security updates.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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My phone is in my pocket 99% of the time, why would I care what people think about it? Anyway, a base model iPhone is only in the $600 range, that is like a week of minimum wage work in my state. Where’s the status? No, it is just a basic functional smartphone for people who don’t like to configure these things (I’ll happily tinker all day with my Linux laptop, but smartphones are just like the worst form-factor, I w…

> a base model iPhone is only in the $600 range $429, actually. > https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-iphone/iphone-se

Yeah it's very weird, here in Europe the SE is a lot more expensive. Here in Spain it's €559 which is much more $ to € markup than any of the other models.

I don't think it's that interesting a model either because it ignores the last 5 years of innovations like bezelless phones. For €349 you can get a nice midrange Android which does have a bezelless screen, fingerprint in display, oled display and often even a 3.5mm jack.

Sure it's not as fast but that's one one thing I care less about, if I need fast I'll use my computers. The phone is just for on the road.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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post #316

The link should really be to the original report [0]. This 55% is iPhone's share of phone shipments in Q2, not the number of users of the respective phones at any given time. In other words, fewer people are buying smartphones than were before, but Apple saw less of a hit to their numbers than everyone else did. Contrary to existing comments here, this stat doesn't appear to indicate that people are switching from An…

I'm constantly amazed by how people spend so much of their income on Apple products; it's almost like their lives are ruled by the status they feel an iPhone brings (and the consequential sacrificial purchasing). It likely varies by area and average income, here it's almost an inverse correlation - the less-well off kids at school tend to have parents on iPhones and the comfortable parents are on whatever works for t…

I used to get an iphone every year. Since it was for work, it was tax deductible, so I could sell last year, and make a small profit each year.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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I'm part of this statistic. I've been an Android user my entire adult life, but it really has been a constant downward spiral over these past several years. My previous three phones from LG, Motorola, and Xiaomi all had major software bugs that were never fixed, the biggest being just incredibly poor network connectivity (across multiple carriers, mind you) resulting in at least several calls just not connecting to m…

Why do you resent that your money went to a company who put a good device in your hand? I'd resent giving money to a company who can't be bothered to make a device that makes me happy.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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post #316

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I'm constantly amazed by how people spend so much of their income on Apple products; it's almost like their lives are ruled by the status they feel an iPhone brings (and the consequential sacrificial purchasing). It likely varies by area and average income, here it's almost an inverse correlation - the less-well off kids at school tend to have parents on iPhones and the comfortable parents are on whatever works for t…

Are you really constantly amazed? iPhone user here. I don’t see my phone as a status symbol. I just like it much better. If you like Android better, that’s cool too.

Nobody pays attention to the phone I have. I am not some teenager sitting at the lunch table with her friends blabbing about phones. To suggest I have iPhone because of status seeking is just ridiculous. Most grown ups don’t care what other grown ups think of their phone. It isn’t 1996.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Is that a sincere argument? Guy was talking about and blocking in the browser

It's been possible to install ad blockers for the browser on iPhones for years, without resorting to a VPN. I don't bother anymore because I'm usually at home and have a pihole anyway, but I used to use Firefox Focus—not as my browser, but to provide ad-blocking for Safari. Worked fine. Open it once to set it up (at least IIRC that was necessary—I don't remember, but there was some very-simple setup step I'm pretty s…

These solutions don't block video ads and they require crippling your speed with a VPN.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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It may just be that people who have lower income, and are guided by "status" may make worser choices or are can't/don't understand financial implications or maybe they are just doing their best to "peacock" and fit in with what they think is the right tool to achieve their goals? It's nothing new, you could've said the same thing in the 90's about Sega, Nintendo and Playstation and with Shoes, Clothes, anything -

Yes 60% of Americans are guided by “status”. My 80 year old mom was just talking to me yesterday about how she feels superior to everyone else because she has Blue bubbles like the Instagram influencers she followx

Your 80 year old mom follows Insta influencers? Cool mom, but probably not representative.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Not when you consider that modern phones are also our cameras, satellite navigation systems, calendars, mobile hotspots, mobile browsers, handheld gaming devices, music players, video players, and more. Personally, I think they’re a heck of a bargain for what they do.

You're arguing that the value they provide is worth the high price. That's a valid argument, but it doesn't mean that the price isn't high. Whether or not it's worth it is a purely subjective thing.

“High” prices are subjective. A $600 Maserati isn’t high priced.
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