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Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by adamredwoods »

nordsieck wrote: post #361
zh3 wrote: post #316

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm constantly amazed by how people spend so much of their income on Apple products; it's almost like their lives are ruled by the status they feel an iPhone brings (and the consequential sacrificial purchasing). It likely varies by area and average income, here it's almost an inverse correlation - the less-well off kids at school tend to have parents on iPhones and the comfortable parents are on whatever works for t…

> I'm constantly amazed by how people spend so much of their income on Apple products I don't know about other people, but I went iPhone specifically for the value/$. Got a used iPhone SE 2020 for $150 in late 2021, and expect to use it for 5+ years. I seriously doubt that there are any Androids out there that could get even close to that. It really helps that Apple's CPU/SoC is substantially superior to what everyon…

I'm still on Pixel 2. The battery is a bit short these days, but I have no performance issues.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by perryizgr8 »

sb057 wrote: post #223

I'm part of this statistic. I've been an Android user my entire adult life, but it really has been a constant downward spiral over these past several years. My previous three phones from LG, Motorola, and Xiaomi all had major software bugs that were never fixed, the biggest being just incredibly poor network connectivity (across multiple carriers, mind you) resulting in at least several calls just not connecting to m…

> My previous three phones from LG, Motorola, and Xiaomi all had major software bugs

I see this pattern with a lot of IPhone users. They tried the cheapest worst quality android phones and came away with a bad taste in the mouth. So iPhone is the only "decent cellphone in 2023". My dude you never tried the good android phones. Get a Samsung galaxy flagship. These are at par, if not better than the similarly priced iPhone model in all respects.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by Izikiel43 »

sb057 wrote: post #223

I'm part of this statistic. I've been an Android user my entire adult life, but it really has been a constant downward spiral over these past several years. My previous three phones from LG, Motorola, and Xiaomi all had major software bugs that were never fixed, the biggest being just incredibly poor network connectivity (across multiple carriers, mind you) resulting in at least several calls just not connecting to m…

I remember a friend telling me why use iPhone instead of Android:

"I already deal with problems at work, I don't want to deal with problems with my phone"

Truer words never said, I also had several androids over the years which went crazy after some time, switched to iPhone, never an issue again.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by fsflover »

flyingcircus3 wrote: post #379

How are we still, 15 years later, stuck in the feigned incredulity stage of android vs ios? "I don't see how anyone still buys an ____. How can you not see the overwhelming evidence that ____ is unequivocally the better phone?" If either device can fit in either blank, as it has all over this thread, perhaps that's because there hasn't been any undeniably impactful feature improvements on either platform in the last…

> How are we still, 15 years later, stuck in the feigned incredulity stage of android vs ios?

We aren't. Sent from my Librem 5.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by rjh29 »

kube-system wrote: post #459
rjh29 wrote: post #309

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Thankfully only the US is afflicted with this stupidity.

The rest of the world chose a different stupidity, locking in their messaging to Meta's platform.

Is it really worse though? I can use WhatsApp on any device I want, I'm not locked to iPhone.

Japan uses LINE. Network effect implies a convergence to one app (pick your poison) and I am certain WhatsApp is better than the US situation.

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Post by JohnFen »

lockhouse wrote: post #480
JohnFen wrote: post #411

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> only in the $600 range "Only"? $600 is pretty steep. That it's not on the high end of modern phone prices is indicative of how crazy modern phone prices are.

Not when you consider that modern phones are also our cameras, satellite navigation systems, calendars, mobile hotspots, mobile browsers, handheld gaming devices, music players, video players, and more. Personally, I think they’re a heck of a bargain for what they do.

You're arguing that the value they provide is worth the high price. That's a valid argument, but it doesn't mean that the price isn't high.

Whether or not it's worth it is a purely subjective thing.

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Post by SkyPuncher »

wilsonnb3 wrote: post #272
sb057 wrote: post #223

I'm part of this statistic. I've been an Android user my entire adult life, but it really has been a constant downward spiral over these past several years. My previous three phones from LG, Motorola, and Xiaomi all had major software bugs that were never fixed, the biggest being just incredibly poor network connectivity (across multiple carriers, mind you) resulting in at least several calls just not connecting to m…

"there really is no alternative if you want a decent cell phone in 2023" is just plain wrong. I try to avoid lumping all of the android manufacturers together and treat them individually when comparing them to apple. LG, Motorola, and Xiaomi are not as good as apple but Samsung is. Decent argument to be made for OnePlus, Google, and Asus matching apple as well.

Having switched from Android to iPhone recently, it’s not even the quality of the phone. It’s the insane fragmentation, incomplete features, and random breaking features.

I finally gave up when a pair of Bluetooth headphones couldn’t pair with my phone. I realized that there are simply too many variations of Android for device manufacturers to test. With an iPhone, you know that most accessories are going to be tested against your specific model.

Now that I’m on an iPhone, the integration between various device is insane. Answer a call in your watch, transfer it to your phone, then move it to your laptop. Seamlessly, cast music to speakers/tv/bluetooth and it just works, every single time.

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Post by Dig1t »

zh3 wrote: post #316
lolinder wrote: post #278

The link should really be to the original report [0]. This 55% is iPhone's share of phone shipments in Q2, not the number of users of the respective phones at any given time. In other words, fewer people are buying smartphones than were before, but Apple saw less of a hit to their numbers than everyone else did. Contrary to existing comments here, this stat doesn't appear to indicate that people are switching from An…

I'm constantly amazed by how people spend so much of their income on Apple products; it's almost like their lives are ruled by the status they feel an iPhone brings (and the consequential sacrificial purchasing). It likely varies by area and average income, here it's almost an inverse correlation - the less-well off kids at school tend to have parents on iPhones and the comfortable parents are on whatever works for t…

I have a ton of Apple products and I could not care less about the status they confer. They just genuinely have a better end to end user experience most of the time. They do, for the most part, live up to the “just works” mantra.

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Post by Barrin92 »

Loveaway wrote: post #466
zh3 wrote: post #316

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I'm constantly amazed by how people spend so much of their income on Apple products; it's almost like their lives are ruled by the status they feel an iPhone brings (and the consequential sacrificial purchasing). It likely varies by area and average income, here it's almost an inverse correlation - the less-well off kids at school tend to have parents on iPhones and the comfortable parents are on whatever works for t…

No mate, people value themselves and get the best thing they can have. Smartphones are so essential now and used 24/7, don't cheap out on it. You don't cheap out on food either. Nothing to do with status. Not all about Apple either, there are nice premium Android phones as well. What are you doing, saving for a golden tombstone?

>You don't cheap out on food either

Except many people do. Friend of mine is a chef and likes to quip that people will pour the most expensive oil into their car and the cheapest into their pan. The median American takes home like 35k a year, they're not saving anything for their tombstone, they're lucky if the house is paid off by that time. Yet you see a lot of people run around with the newest top line phone. That's just conspicuous consumption.

Almost nobody except for mobile gaming enthusiasts or VR users gets meaningful premium value out of a new phone at this point. People drop serious money on new hardware every two years that they use for Whatsapp and TikTok.

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Post by duskwuff »

Jtsummers wrote: post #149
sebzim4500 wrote: post #143

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If I were in the situation the guy described I definitely would have tried swiping down and then got confused when that didn't work. I guess I'd eventually try tapping it. I haven't used iOS in years though, maybe if I was used to it then tapping would have been my first impulse. Do you often have to tap on the top/bottom of the screen to do things?

You aren't really tapping on the top/bottom of the screen in an arbitrary way. There's a green oval indicator that you're on a call (or a blue oval if you have map navigation as I mentioned in my sibling post to yours). You tap on that indicator. It's been that way for years now. Perhaps it's not the most intuitive, but it's not totally unintuitive and it makes a lot more sense to tap an indicator object than to try…

On some older phones it's just a horizontal bar at the top of the screen. But it also says "touch to return to call" on it, so that should be fairly self-explanatory. :)
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