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Tremor – The React library to build dashboards fast

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Re: Tremor – The React library to build dashboards fast

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Post by latchkey »

I started a react component library project that has been going for 4 years now and gets about 40k downloads a month.

If it wasn't for my test suite, things would have been a giant mess long ago and I probably would have abandoned it. I can't think of doing a react project without a test suite because over time, any dependencies you have (including on react) will end up breaking things in ways that you don't know. Without those tests, you can't be sure of upgrades... which you're forced to do because your users will want to do things like upgrade react.

So... any project like this... in order for me to ever add it to my own project or depend on it in any way, really needs a test suite.

The test suite for this project is pretty much non-existent, which is a huge bummer should should be a huge red flag for anyone who thinks about using it. You're just going to end up with broken code.

Re: Tremor – The React library to build dashboards fast

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Post by ramesh31 »

I've gotten so jaded on these "batteries included! everything you'll ever need!" component libraries over the years. Inevitably you'll run into a component that is half-baked or incompatible with your architecture, which forces you to install a 3rd party alternative.

Then it happens again. And again...

Eventually you're left pulling in this huge library with 2MB of CSS just for the four components you're still using from it. Then a new dev joins the team and gets to enjoy the confusion of "should i use $library component here? Or do we have another wrapper for it? or is there something else entirely being used for it?".

Just avoid the hassle and stick with a curated list of well fleshed out individual components that are tested and have thousands of stars each. Create a barebones wrapper over it to match your design system, and call it a day.

Re: Tremor – The React library to build dashboards fast

#13

Post by code_witch_sam »

latchkey wrote: post #11

I started a react component library project that has been going for 4 years now and gets about 40k downloads a month. If it wasn't for my test suite, things would have been a giant mess long ago and I probably would have abandoned it. I can't think of doing a react project without a test suite because over time, any dependencies you have (including on react) will end up breaking things in ways that you don't know. Wi…

i only skimmed the home page, but it seems far too opinionated for general use. if you're starting fresh and plan to use tremor as your all-encompassing ui kit, it seems fine. but at that point, why not grafana, retool, or some other no-to-low-code dashboard solution?

Re: Tremor – The React library to build dashboards fast

#14

Post by appplication »

latchkey wrote: post #11

I started a react component library project that has been going for 4 years now and gets about 40k downloads a month. If it wasn't for my test suite, things would have been a giant mess long ago and I probably would have abandoned it. I can't think of doing a react project without a test suite because over time, any dependencies you have (including on react) will end up breaking things in ways that you don't know. Wi…

Not a react dev, but having a comprehensive test suite is the only reason I feel comfortable pushing code changes and upgrading dependencies. It is difficult at first to build the habit and discipline to always write comprehensive tests for new code, but it is very worth it.

Re: Tremor – The React library to build dashboards fast

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Post by latchkey »

code_witch_sam wrote: post #13
latchkey wrote: post #11

I started a react component library project that has been going for 4 years now and gets about 40k downloads a month. If it wasn't for my test suite, things would have been a giant mess long ago and I probably would have abandoned it. I can't think of doing a react project without a test suite because over time, any dependencies you have (including on react) will end up breaking things in ways that you don't know. Wi…

i only skimmed the home page, but it seems far too opinionated for general use. if you're starting fresh and plan to use tremor as your all-encompassing ui kit, it seems fine. but at that point, why not grafana, retool, or some other no-to-low-code dashboard solution?

It is fine for a quick one off project, but if you're going to depend on anything over the long term, you have to be able to upgrade it. Especially in JS land where things change almost weekly. 99% of my releases have been simply about dealing with changes of dependencies. I wouldn't be confident to do a release if I didn't have a test suite.

You're right on the point of using another low code solution though... it still opens you up to dependency issues. You might also want this as a product with its own skinned UX/UI that you have full control over. Third party 'commercial' products won't always give that to you.

Re: Tremor – The React library to build dashboards fast

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Post by latchkey »

appplication wrote: post #14
latchkey wrote: post #11

I started a react component library project that has been going for 4 years now and gets about 40k downloads a month. If it wasn't for my test suite, things would have been a giant mess long ago and I probably would have abandoned it. I can't think of doing a react project without a test suite because over time, any dependencies you have (including on react) will end up breaking things in ways that you don't know. Wi…

Not a react dev, but having a comprehensive test suite is the only reason I feel comfortable pushing code changes and upgrading dependencies. It is difficult at first to build the habit and discipline to always write comprehensive tests for new code, but it is very worth it.

In JS land it is especially important and honestly one of the least done things, which is sad and a source of why things are always breaking randomly.

Re: Tremor – The React library to build dashboards fast

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Post by sdesol »

If you are looking for a dashboard system that is written in vanilla JS, I will be open sourcing my DevBoard in the next month or two. You can see it in action at https://devboard.gitsense.com/microsoft/vscode and learn more about the widget system at https://devboard.gitsense.com/microsoft/vscode?board=gitsens... Note the repo that is mentioned in the intro page hasn't been pushed to GitHub yet, but will be soon.

The server is a very simple node/express app and the front end is written in vanilla javascript. I also use GitHub's primer css (https://github.com/primer/css) and a heavily stripped down version of tabler's css (https://github.com/tabler/tabler)

Note, DevBoard is more geared towards hackers, so Tremor's is probably a much better fit if you are looking for an out of the box solution.

Re: Tremor – The React library to build dashboards fast

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Post by appplication »

latchkey wrote: post #17
appplication wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not a react dev, but having a comprehensive test suite is the only reason I feel comfortable pushing code changes and upgrading dependencies. It is difficult at first to build the habit and discipline to always write comprehensive tests for new code, but it is very worth it.

In JS land it is especially important and honestly one of the least done things, which is sad and a source of why things are always breaking randomly.

I work primarily with data scientists in python, so I understand a similar pain.

Re: Tremor – The React library to build dashboards fast

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Post by simonbarker87 »

exod983 wrote: post #10
samspenc wrote: post #9

Interesting it's open-source but they don't seem to highlight it on their home page, I had to search for their Github page to find it https://github.com/tremorlabs/tremor Then when I came back to the home page and searched for "license", I confirmed it says "Apache-2.0 license" in light-grey, small font in the middle of the page.

Hi, Chris here from Tremor. Many thanks for the feedback! I wasn't aware that it is not directly understood as an open-source library by our website hero title

I totally missed it as well, got to the bottom of the page, saw something about pre-release and assumed it was paid for. This comment above is what has made me go back and bookmark.
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