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Re: Threads users down by more than a half

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Post by justapassenger »

andrewstuart wrote: post #200
justapassenger wrote: post #180

It’s super funny to see people framing that as Threads failing. They totally may fail. But even after that initial drop (which is expected, for something that managed to get so much hype) they’re likely still the biggest app in the history in terms of DAU in few weeks after the launch. And if there’s one thing Meta knows how to do is to copy successful idea and slowly grind the growth till it dominates market.

Absolutely this is failure. Twitter/threads is (or should be) a highly viral application. New users should find themselves compelled to use the product and compelled to encourage others to use it. With a 100 million user head start, if they were succeeding this shoukd have immediately resulted in the viral loop being triggered into explosive growth. It’s a huge failure. Not necessarily unrecoverable, but absolutely a…

Got it. Unless they had everyone on earth signed up by now, it’s a huge failure.

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Post by flopriore »

dhosek wrote: post #23

I don’t use Twitter because I like Twitter, but because that’s where the people that I like to interact with (mostly writers) are. It’s becoming increasingly obvious that Twitter isn’t going to be that place with each new chaos monkey attack from Musk, but what the successor place is going to be remains to be seen. Threads failed the smell test early on because it started out with algorithmic feed only and the algori…

Yeah, that's exactly the "Cold Start Problem". You must get the "hard side" of the network (drivers for Uber, content creator for social networks) asap and they must be happy to use your platform, otherwise your product is going to be a failure

Re: Threads users down by more than a half

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Post by andrewstuart »

justapassenger wrote: post #211
andrewstuart wrote: post #200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Absolutely this is failure. Twitter/threads is (or should be) a highly viral application. New users should find themselves compelled to use the product and compelled to encourage others to use it. With a 100 million user head start, if they were succeeding this shoukd have immediately resulted in the viral loop being triggered into explosive growth. It’s a huge failure. Not necessarily unrecoverable, but absolutely a…

Got it. Unless they had everyone on earth signed up by now, it’s a huge failure.

Facebook had to contain the growth.

People were battering down the door for access.

Re: Threads users down by more than a half

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Post by peter422 »

andrewstuart wrote: post #200
justapassenger wrote: post #180

It’s super funny to see people framing that as Threads failing. They totally may fail. But even after that initial drop (which is expected, for something that managed to get so much hype) they’re likely still the biggest app in the history in terms of DAU in few weeks after the launch. And if there’s one thing Meta knows how to do is to copy successful idea and slowly grind the growth till it dominates market.

Absolutely this is failure. Twitter/threads is (or should be) a highly viral application. New users should find themselves compelled to use the product and compelled to encourage others to use it. With a 100 million user head start, if they were succeeding this shoukd have immediately resulted in the viral loop being triggered into explosive growth. It’s a huge failure. Not necessarily unrecoverable, but absolutely a…

By this logic Twitter should also be growing, as it’s even better than threads in terms of content.

Yet not only is Twitter not growing but it’s shrinking.

I think your expectations for success in this vertical are off.

Re: Threads users down by more than a half

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Post by dredmorbius »

operatingthetan wrote: post #192
dredmorbius wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I picked a particular item with significant HN discussion. The fact that it was data-backed (a 40k profile analysis) also means that it lags actual activity. As with all complex evolving situations, hard empirical data are not realtime. The "ghost town" label had been stuck on G+ within the first few weeks, yes. HN discussion from September 2011 (G+ launched in July): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3019699 > Nu…

Way too much conflation with labels, timelines, types of project, recollections from 12 years ago, etc. for me. Also we're comparing Meta, a company with experience running two successful social networks against Google of ten plus years ago, with none.

Your original position was "We don't typically write about startups gaining initial signups and then compare them to the active users".

I've given multiple examples of just such a comparison being made over a decade ago.

In both cases, the new launch was by an existing giant in the sector, with claimed performance being not entirely credible.

Google of a decade ago had launched [edit: or aquired, but in either event, run] Orkut, Friendster, Wayze, Reader, and YouTube. Several of those were modest hits, one remains a giant (YT), and one is much missed by its small but quite significant fan base (Reader).

The Social space is immensely fickle, and the ability of even an established industry giant to succeed with a new venture is fairly thin. Facebook has largely bought rather than made its own follow-on successes to date (as did Google in buying YouTube).

Note edit above. Poor language choice around pedants.

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Post by User23 »

lopkeny12ko wrote: post #100
explain wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

87.6% of Twitter active-seconds are mobile, according to Elon's most recent data. Would've expected closer to 70/30 personally.

And do you actually believe this statistic? I don't know a single person who willingly prefers a limited, bogged-down experience of any product (social media or otherwise) over a full-fledged desktop client.

Most people don't take their laptop to the bathroom.

Re: Threads users down by more than a half

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Post by mr_00ff00 »

nologic01 wrote: post #206

Its inevitable that online social media platforms will split in two types. The type I that attracts those with something authentic to say . And the type II that attracts those with something to sell . The first type is the future fediverse. Its the 15%. The art house cinema. The colorful city center street. Flexible, innovative, human centric, low budget, soul nourishing. The second type is Meta-stasized and coming i…

What social media is Type 1? I feel like the history of the internet is social media apps starting close to Type 1 and becoming Type 2.

Re: Threads users down by more than a half

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Post by rglullis »

slimsag wrote: post #202
rglullis wrote: post #183

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I don’t use Twitter because I like Twitter, but because that’s where the people that I like to interact with (mostly writers) are For these cases, I follow the Twitter accounts on Mastodon by way of the mirror sites - bird.makeup is the most popular I believe. "But you can't respond to people there". Yeah, but I don't care. Since Elon changed the meaning of the blue checkmark and made it effectively pay-to-play, th…

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Wow, this seems really bad. Did you ask for your money back?

Re: Threads users down by more than a half

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Post by justapassenger »

andrewstuart wrote: post #214
justapassenger wrote: post #211

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Got it. Unless they had everyone on earth signed up by now, it’s a huge failure.

Facebook had to contain the growth. People were battering down the door for access.

Can you remind me how they got 100M users in the first week?

You seriously compare growth at the planet scale with a growth at few universities?

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