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US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by kaba0 »

partiallypro wrote: post #122

Does this mean the US government can finally start treating Apple the way it treats Microsoft, etc when it does clearly anti-competitive things? They get away with murder sometimes and no one bats an eye. Even here on HN, it's full of people that turn a blind eye because they have a love for Apple. Everything as spun as "looking out for the user" as if not using USB-C, locking out RCS, the "Apple Tax" etc are anythin…

None of your examples are “murders”. They have been using USB-C in pretty much every non-iphone device for years, switching on a whim to USB-C would have just left a bad taste in the users’ mouthes (and millions of unused cables). RCS is just google’s fake open-source proprietary protocol with terrible security, I really don’t want any of that thank you very much.

Apple Tax is as bad as any other similar app store — they would be stupid to bust it deliberately, thankfully we have governments that will do their job here. With the EU rules it will become great.

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Post by wilsonnb3 »

sb057 wrote: post #223

I'm part of this statistic. I've been an Android user my entire adult life, but it really has been a constant downward spiral over these past several years. My previous three phones from LG, Motorola, and Xiaomi all had major software bugs that were never fixed, the biggest being just incredibly poor network connectivity (across multiple carriers, mind you) resulting in at least several calls just not connecting to m…

"there really is no alternative if you want a decent cell phone in 2023" is just plain wrong.

I try to avoid lumping all of the android manufacturers together and treat them individually when comparing them to apple.

LG, Motorola, and Xiaomi are not as good as apple but Samsung is. Decent argument to be made for OnePlus, Google, and Asus matching apple as well.

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Post by lockhouse »

tails4e wrote: post #167

Was just on to apple support for an issue with my daughters phone, and I have to say it was a really nice experience. Good online chat first (may be a bot, but if so was a good one), and immediate call from a senior advisor when it needs to be escalated. Issue solved in 10 mins flat. Not sure how well it goes with others, but customer service counts for a lot and glad apple appreciate that.

Support is also great at an Apple Store. I walked in with a broken Apple Watch. A couple minutes later my Apple Care claim was taken care of, and 2 days later I had a replacement arrive on my doorstep.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by avgDev »

ceejayoz wrote: post #265
avgDev wrote: post #242

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have a single back up option which is the iCloud.(EDIT: SINGLE CLOUD OPTION) Can't install any app I want. Locked into OS.

> You have a single back up option which is the iCloud. That's false. You can backup to a computer, including to Windows. https://support.apple.com/en-au/guide/iphone/iph3ecf67d29/io...

Using Itunes........with android you can literally select another CLOUD provider.

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Post by ImprovedSilence »

GeekyBear wrote: post #252
djhworld wrote: post #131

I'm thinking of making the switch to iPhone this year once the USB-C model comes out Whether I regret it, not sure, I mean Android isn't _that_ bad really and the Samsung phones are good, but I think Apple have nailed the ecosystem thing a lot better than what google have.

> Android isn't _that_ bad From a support after the sale perspective? Yes it is. The $399 2016 iPhone SE is still getting security updates today. The original Google Pixel is also from 2016 but stopped getting any sort of updates at the end of 2019. If you want a basic phone that will be supported as long as possible after the sale, the support length per dollar spent proposition of the SE models is pretty unbeatable…

This is 100% the reason I have an iPhone. I can usually eek out 5 yrs on an iphone before it’s taken one too many falls. Which has also been why any iPhone of mine has died, no other reason than I fumbled it around with no case on it…. Also much to my pleasure, the 13 mini was still available for my most recent upgrade, so now I don’t have a gigantic phone anymore either.

I have looked to get out of apples grasp, but nothing else comes close in terms of long term support, which is absolutely necessary for a device that touches all of my digital life.

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Post by ke88y »

nightshadetrie wrote: post #247

The difference is that the iPhone is the bread and butter to Apple, where as Google's Android is treated as secondary.

Which seems like a massive liability for the company. Search engines seem like a much lower moat than mobile platforms these days.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by JohnFen »

Android phones stopped being attractive to me a few years back. They've become overpriced and it's much harder to make them work acceptably well.

iPhones don't appeal to me at all, though.

The decline of Android phones is one of the reasons that I've decided go without a smartphone entirely when my current one dies.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by lolinder »

The link should really be to the original report [0].

This 55% is iPhone's share of phone shipments in Q2, not the number of users of the respective phones at any given time. In other words, fewer people are buying smartphones than were before, but Apple saw less of a hit to their numbers than everyone else did.

Contrary to existing comments here, this stat doesn't appear to indicate that people are switching from Android to iPhone. It looks like Android users are more likely to avoid upgrading their phone in an uncertain economy, while Apple users are more likely to upgrade regardless.

[0] https://www.counterpointresearch.com/us-smartphone-shipments...

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Post by kube-system »

avgDev wrote: post #242
kube-system wrote: post #215

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What lock-in do iPhones have that isn't a thing on Android? Honestly curious.

You have a single back up option which is the iCloud.(EDIT: SINGLE CLOUD OPTION) Can't install any app I want. Locked into OS.

I back up data on my iPhone to my NAS using a third-party app.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by avgDev »

lockhouse wrote: post #268
avgDev wrote: post #242

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have a single back up option which is the iCloud.(EDIT: SINGLE CLOUD OPTION) Can't install any app I want. Locked into OS.

One Drive is working for me just fine on my iPhone, and there are other options available like DropBox and Google Drive as well.

iPhone doesn't not allow phone backups using another cloud provider? Are you talking about backing up images?
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