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US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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I was due for an upgrade and switched to Android this cycle. Acquired a unlocked Pixel 7 that was on sale in June and immediately reflashed it with GrapheneOS. Ultimately a very smooth experience. The difference in tracking is very evident as is the amount of data streaming out of the phone.

But Google is again deliberately stupid with them, like, just goddamn.. sell it.. in Europe. I honestly can’t even understand that there are like 3 Eu countries I could buy it, if I wanted to..

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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I'm thinking of making the switch to iPhone this year once the USB-C model comes out Whether I regret it, not sure, I mean Android isn't _that_ bad really and the Samsung phones are good, but I think Apple have nailed the ecosystem thing a lot better than what google have.

> Android isn't _that_ bad

From a support after the sale perspective? Yes it is.

The $399 2016 iPhone SE is still getting security updates today.

The original Google Pixel is also from 2016 but stopped getting any sort of updates at the end of 2019.

If you want a basic phone that will be supported as long as possible after the sale, the support length per dollar spent proposition of the SE models is pretty unbeatable.

I think this is a major factor that is driving market share towards iPhone.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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iPhone has always been a superior experience to me. While it may not have that tinkering ability like an Android, on the whole Apps are much higher quality, more paying customers as a dev, lots of things that just work between devices. I think it’s deserved in that sense.

The quality of indie apps on iOS has always been a huge draw for me. Unfortunately that’s mostly been replaced by the swamp of garbage from IAP and ad driven filth that only cares about money. But the gems are still there.

No doubt iOS has great exclusive apps, however, Android has some gems as well. Newpipe, Buzzkill, the ability to have any browser engine you want, 3rd party app stores, 3rd party launchers, I'm sure I'm forgetting some other perks. Both platforms have their strengths.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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To be fair, iPhones almost have caught up with Android features.

Still the lack of control is poor. Maybe in 10 years they will give users control.

However, the security is a dealbreaker. I have something quite important on my phone, I can't trust Apple's lack of security.

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Android’s problem is Pixel is the only good one, and it has not been flagship quality since the Pixel 2. The 3 had odd issues, the 4 had a laughable battery life, and 5-7 are a weird mix of midrange and flagship capability (trending towards flagship, but not in the club yet). All other Android vendors are on a continuum of crap, between these points: 1. loaded with bloat and customizations that aren’t better than wha…

I think Motorola phones are OK. I personally will never buy a Motorola after an early experience with them prior to Google buying and re-rolling them. But my wife used them and liked them and they seem less shitty than they once were. I've had a series of Nexus and Pixel phones. I had a Pixel 3 for a long long time and really, really loved it. It was such a perfect phone. I'm on Pixel 7 now and it's... alright. Compa…

> the fingerprint scanner is on Pixel 4 was so much better

Are you sure you're talking about the right phone? Pixel 4 doesn't have a fingerprint scanner.

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I'm part of this statistic. I've been an Android user my entire adult life, but it really has been a constant downward spiral over these past several years. My previous three phones from LG, Motorola, and Xiaomi all had major software bugs that were never fixed, the biggest being just incredibly poor network connectivity (across multiple carriers, mind you) resulting in at least several calls just not connecting to m…

Funny, my last android was samsung which I had many of the issues you describe above, and in particular it felt very bloated. I've been getting older generation Pixel S and they are very good for the price. usually 1/4 the price of a comparable flagship iOS and I never have any issues.

Samsung is the Apple of android.

Big marketing budget, mid performance at best.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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What is the messaging lock-in? I have lots of text threads with mixed Android+iPhone users, and never have any problem.

Those plain SMS threads are green instead of blue. That lets iPhone owners judge Android owners from afar. /s Only half kidding. The real issue is just SMS vs data. And a little bit of feature parity - it's changed a few times, but until recently, if I "liked" a message in an SMS thread, we'd all see something like "Alistair like 'something said by somebody'" instead of just applying the thumb-up icon. This only gets…

> The real issue is just SMS vs data.

From what I understand (I am European, so never met anyone using iMessage) the real issue is that Apple refuses to distribute its application on Android, forcing instead communication from and to Android to travel via SMS. It's not a problem of SMS (which nobody really uses anymore), it's a deliberate choice. The genius is to allow enough communication between iPhone and Android as to not force iPhone users to switch app, while making it as uncomfortable as possible for both sides.

If it were possible at all, the best solution would be for Android to just block SMS from iMessage, citing some bogus security reason. Then iPhone users would be forced to switch app to communicate and the spell would be broken.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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I'm part of this statistic. I've been an Android user my entire adult life, but it really has been a constant downward spiral over these past several years. My previous three phones from LG, Motorola, and Xiaomi all had major software bugs that were never fixed, the biggest being just incredibly poor network connectivity (across multiple carriers, mind you) resulting in at least several calls just not connecting to m…

I kind of went the other way, I have had androids since 2010ish, then tried an iphone at the beginning of corona since my old sony phone couldn't run teams properly. Had it for 2 years and hated it so much I went back to android.

I couldn't even install a separate browser like firefox that was not just a skin and the ad-block on safari drove me crazy. It only prevented items from being displayed but not the network requests etc.

Also, it was nagging me a lot, constantly asking for me to sign up to icloud and other things.

Back on a pixel phone now and couldn't be more happy really.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Funny, my last android was samsung which I had many of the issues you describe above, and in particular it felt very bloated. I've been getting older generation Pixel S and they are very good for the price. usually 1/4 the price of a comparable flagship iOS and I never have any issues.

Samsung is the Apple of android. Big marketing budget, mid performance at best.

What’s mid performance about an iPhone?

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> There's the green bar at the top indicating I'm still in the call, but I cannot figure out how to get back to it. You may be overthinking things. Just tap the bar. :)

Also works for maps which also adds an indicator in the status bar. Very handy.

Or any other “thing” that uses your camera/mic. You will get a clear indicator that it is being used, and touching it brings you to the app in question.
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