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US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by kube-system »

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #47
sourcecodeplz wrote: post #12

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That's just an exercise though really. You NEED a smartphone nowadays for everyday life: banking, gym access, maps, etc.

>gym access Where do you live that gyms don't work without a smartphone? Must be some hipster SV place with Juiceros and Keurigs I imagine. All the gyms I've been to in Europe give you either a physical RFID card or armband for access when you sign up, no smartphone required. Then again I've only been to the most budget gyms, not the uber-fancy ones of tech-bros, lawyers and corporate elites, so maybe those gyms have…

The epitome of cheap gyms in the US, Planet Fitness, uses QR code check in. They used to give out keychain barcode tags, but stopped during COVID.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by TillE »

veave wrote: post #136
joelfried wrote: post #112

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For people who already have USB-C phones and are considering switching it means "All of the cords you have right now will still be useful", which is a definite improvement over "All of the cords you have right now are junk you will throw away and have to replace with new cords". I'm not trying to say that will drive massive upgrades in and of itself, but I can definitely see it being a nice-to-have at the margins and…

I'm pretty pissed because I have had apple stuff for years and now I suppose I can throw the lightning cables in the trash. Thanks EU!

Don't you have USB-C cables for literally everything else? This is Apple's equivalent to finally dropping micro-USB, everyone is using USB-C now, thankfully.

I mean my MBP has a MagSafe charging port, but I use USB-C for powering that too. One type of cable for everything.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by ok123456 »

mgh2 wrote: post #229
sb057 wrote: post #223

I'm part of this statistic. I've been an Android user my entire adult life, but it really has been a constant downward spiral over these past several years. My previous three phones from LG, Motorola, and Xiaomi all had major software bugs that were never fixed, the biggest being just incredibly poor network connectivity (across multiple carriers, mind you) resulting in at least several calls just not connecting to m…

Curious, why do you "resent" your money going to Apple?

Because they're hostile to general purpose computing.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by Fergusonb »

alistairSH wrote: post #115
khazhoux wrote: post #108

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What is the messaging lock-in? I have lots of text threads with mixed Android+iPhone users, and never have any problem.

Those plain SMS threads are green instead of blue. That lets iPhone owners judge Android owners from afar. /s Only half kidding. The real issue is just SMS vs data. And a little bit of feature parity - it's changed a few times, but until recently, if I "liked" a message in an SMS thread, we'd all see something like "Alistair like 'something said by somebody'" instead of just applying the thumb-up icon. This only gets…

This has been a huge problem in my social circles.

I really like my current android device, but my wife and our friends have iphones and we are all constantly inconvenienced by the messaging and other poor sharing options between platforms.

They share things without having to think about it, and I have to come up with solutions that are acceptable to them.

Between this issue and the differences in performance in the last few years, it has me thinking of moving back to team blue after 10+ years on green.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by [deleted] »

mgh2 wrote: post #229
sb057 wrote: post #223

I'm part of this statistic. I've been an Android user my entire adult life, but it really has been a constant downward spiral over these past several years. My previous three phones from LG, Motorola, and Xiaomi all had major software bugs that were never fixed, the biggest being just incredibly poor network connectivity (across multiple carriers, mind you) resulting in at least several calls just not connecting to m…

Curious, why do you "resent" your money going to Apple?

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Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by [deleted] »

kube-system wrote: post #215
avgDev wrote: post #202

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iPhone is not what it is cracked up to be. A lot of lock in. Some things are absolutely annoying. When I went to Poland, I had to change my region to download apps from appstore, it messed up all my purchase history and subscriptions. One thing I like is that I have an iPhone 12 and have no need to upgrade, the phones have a much longer life imo. The statement "apple stuff is just so easy and it works" is EXTREMELY m…

What lock-in do iPhones have that isn't a thing on Android? Honestly curious.

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Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by jerrygenser »

sb057 wrote: post #223

I'm part of this statistic. I've been an Android user my entire adult life, but it really has been a constant downward spiral over these past several years. My previous three phones from LG, Motorola, and Xiaomi all had major software bugs that were never fixed, the biggest being just incredibly poor network connectivity (across multiple carriers, mind you) resulting in at least several calls just not connecting to m…

Funny, my last android was samsung which I had many of the issues you describe above, and in particular it felt very bloated. I've been getting older generation Pixel S and they are very good for the price. usually 1/4 the price of a comparable flagship iOS and I never have any issues.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by kaba0 »

flutas wrote: post #61
matchbok wrote: post #14

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... there is a back swipe gesture. And it works much more consistently than Android's "Where the heck is this gonna take me" back button. Every app you can swipe back, and it's a much nicer animation than Android. The back button is a cudgel: a sign of a poorly designed UX. Apps aren't websites, the concept of "back" is not universal, so a universal button doesn't make sense. It only exists on Android because it star…

> there is a back swipe gesture > Every app you can swipe back > the concept of "back" is not universal, so a universal button doesn't make sense. > It only exists on Android because it started off as a non-touch OS. ... so android has the exact same gesture and it's a bad thing only there because it started as a non touch OS, iOS has it but it's totally not the same concept at all and perfect. Hmmm.

Android had the back button since the beginnings. They added an option a few years back to hide the usual three buttons at the bottom of the screen and to enable an ios-like navigation with a swipe up for home, etc. That made a swipe from the left or right edge recognized by the OS trigger a back button. That is quite different from the app itself recognizing an in-process swipe left, showing the underlying screen you would be brought to. Though some android apps do support this as well.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by davidf18 »

lrvick wrote: post #22
sourcecodeplz wrote: post #12

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That's just an exercise though really. You NEED a smartphone nowadays for everyday life: banking, gym access, maps, etc.

Not had a smartphone or even a cell phone plan in years. I live in silicon valley and run a b2b company. I manage bank accounts, travel a lot, keep up with friends, clients, and peers, etc etc, and get by fine with looking up directions before I leave with a paper map as a backup. Turns out you actually do not NEED a phone. I have a very digitally connected lifestyle which makes it that much more important I be -disc…

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