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US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by dopamean »

rootusrootus wrote: post #10
mydriasis wrote: post #2

> Despite inflation numbers falling through the quarter and ongoing strength in the job market, consumers hesitated to upgrade their devices amid market uncertainty.” > Apple’s resilience was driven by strong promotions across postpaid and prepaid. Verizon, AT&T and T-Mobile continued to offer $800+ promo credits for the iPhone 14 while old-generation iPhones were also steeply discounted across prepaid. We are seeing…

I have a love/hate relationship with Verizon. Okay, more often hate/hate, but still. They have the best network in this area when we're out in the sticks. But their pricing is pretty high. They'll offer $800 on a new iPhone, and then the credit comes one month at a time over 36 months. Meanwhile, you're paying $70-80 per phone. You might as well take the upgrade when available, if you're going to stick with them, bec…

I use visible. It has been trash basically everywhere I go. I live in austin and it's almost completely useless there. I haven't traveled to a single area yet where I've been happy with the service.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by nonameking2026 »

hospitalJail wrote: post #162
djhworld wrote: post #131

I'm thinking of making the switch to iPhone this year once the USB-C model comes out Whether I regret it, not sure, I mean Android isn't _that_ bad really and the Samsung phones are good, but I think Apple have nailed the ecosystem thing a lot better than what google have.

Careful its a prison.

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Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by mrguyorama »

oh_sigh wrote: post #113
notyourwork wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A simple example is the media sharing quality is horrendous when you transcend the iPhone/Android boundary. Can you communicate, yes. Is it as good as an all iMessage interaction, no.

Yup...my parents share videos from their iphone to my android and it is of a quality where you can literally count the pixels. Maybe there is a way to share higher quality, but they're not tech savvy and just do what is the default.

There is definitely a way to share higher quality, my feature phone could send better images and videos in 2010. EMS standards haven't gone away, apple just chooses not to use them because...

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by jansan »

joshstrange wrote: post #163

Personally I don't understand the friends I have that use Android. They wear it as a badge of pride that they didn't give Apple money [0], ok... cool? None of them use a third-party app store, none of them use a custom rom, none of them really customize the phone at all past stock. I understand if you want to go the Android route to root/customise it but if you aren't going to do that then I really don't get the poin…

Maybe they just want a descent browser on their phone. Another reason could be theat they don't have an abundance of financial resources and are fine with a $200 phone.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by mike00632 »

joshstrange wrote: post #163

Personally I don't understand the friends I have that use Android. They wear it as a badge of pride that they didn't give Apple money [0], ok... cool? None of them use a third-party app store, none of them use a custom rom, none of them really customize the phone at all past stock. I understand if you want to go the Android route to root/customise it but if you aren't going to do that then I really don't get the poin…

What if we just want to customize our home screen? I use a custom launcher which doesn't require root or a custom rom.

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Post by n8cpdx »

realusername wrote: post #152
SyrupThinker wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Am I misunderstanding something, I think that gesture exists on iOS? Swiping from the left screen edge to the right navigates back in any properly designed app. Alternatively sheets are usually dismissed by swiping down. Do you have particular apps or contexts in mind where this did not work?

On iOS it's app dependant, it might work or not. On Android, swiping left guarantees a going back event sent from the OS, it'll always 100% work.

Except if the gesture recognition is bad, which it has always been on the phones I’ve used it with. But maybe it improved recently.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by mydriasis »

ars wrote: post #130
mydriasis wrote: post #2

> Despite inflation numbers falling through the quarter and ongoing strength in the job market, consumers hesitated to upgrade their devices amid market uncertainty.” > Apple’s resilience was driven by strong promotions across postpaid and prepaid. Verizon, AT&T and T-Mobile continued to offer $800+ promo credits for the iPhone 14 while old-generation iPhones were also steeply discounted across prepaid. We are seeing…

> going dumb phone next month, which is _even cheaper_ You sure it's cheaper? I've been unable to find a dump phone for a good price - a used smartphone on eBay is far far cheaper. Also a Chinese android phone, and just don't use the "smart" parts.

Yeah, $70 for a new Nokia! Not bad if you ask me.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by jansan »

AuthorizedCust wrote: post #48

Android’s problem is Pixel is the only good one, and it has not been flagship quality since the Pixel 2. The 3 had odd issues, the 4 had a laughable battery life, and 5-7 are a weird mix of midrange and flagship capability (trending towards flagship, but not in the club yet). All other Android vendors are on a continuum of crap, between these points: 1. loaded with bloat and customizations that aren’t better than wha…

> Android’s problem is Pixel is the only good one, and it has not been flagship quality since the Pixel 2.

You should have added that this only applies if you exclued non-US products.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by jwells89 »

bitsandboots wrote: post #99
ApolloFortyNine wrote: post #11

Honestly I don't know how iPhone users live without the back button (or more accurately now, the back gesture). I used an iPhone for a year (work phone) and just could not get over how much harder it was to work a large iphone. I felt like I had to reach every corner of the screen much more often than on Android.

Honestly I don't know how I live without the back button, either. The back button on Android 5+ stopped being "back", it's now some weird system I don't quite understand where it tracks, I think, "activities" and goes back from those, but the end result is the modern android back button is sometimes back, and sometimes close your app, which is really frustrating.

That's because what the back button on Android does is partially determined by the developers of the apps you use. If an app is written using Android Framework there's some things that will automatically add an entry to the back-stack, but many actions won't unless the developer explicitly adds them. So naturally, the back button ends up as something of a "I'm feeling lucky" button.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by Jtsummers »

partiallypro wrote: post #122

Does this mean the US government can finally start treating Apple the way it treats Microsoft, etc when it does clearly anti-competitive things? They get away with murder sometimes and no one bats an eye. Even here on HN, it's full of people that turn a blind eye because they have a love for Apple. Everything as spun as "looking out for the user" as if not using USB-C, locking out RCS, the "Apple Tax" etc are anythin…

Market share alone is not why MS was sued for anti-trust violations. It was how they got into that position, what they did to maintain that position, and what they did with that position.
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