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Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by arkitaip »

djhworld wrote: post #131

I'm thinking of making the switch to iPhone this year once the USB-C model comes out Whether I regret it, not sure, I mean Android isn't _that_ bad really and the Samsung phones are good, but I think Apple have nailed the ecosystem thing a lot better than what google have.

Interesting, this is what I'm considering too after exclusively using Android+Windows since forever. The enshittification of Windows is mainly what has changed my mind - worse privacy, UX, forcing users to use online accounts - but also life seems more simple when you only have Apple to consider instead of whatever shenanigans that Microsoft and Google throws at you. Furthermore, the UX of the Apple eco system seems better than anything I've encountered on Android+Windows.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by realusername »

SyrupThinker wrote: post #34
ApolloFortyNine wrote: post #11

Honestly I don't know how iPhone users live without the back button (or more accurately now, the back gesture). I used an iPhone for a year (work phone) and just could not get over how much harder it was to work a large iphone. I felt like I had to reach every corner of the screen much more often than on Android.

Am I misunderstanding something, I think that gesture exists on iOS? Swiping from the left screen edge to the right navigates back in any properly designed app. Alternatively sheets are usually dismissed by swiping down. Do you have particular apps or contexts in mind where this did not work?

On iOS it's app dependant, it might work or not. On Android, swiping left guarantees a going back event sent from the OS, it'll always 100% work.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by macintosh-hd »

flutas wrote: post #74
ramesh31 wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'm sorry, but - "for the same price"? You must live in a very different place than I do. iPhone 14 Plus MSRP: $899. Google Pixel 7 Pro MSRP: $899. Guess which one will last longer and have higher resale?

Why compare the lower end iPhone to the higher end Android? iPhone 14 Pro: $999 Pixel 7 Pro: $899 iPhone 14: $799 Pixel 7: $599 Pixel 7a: $499

Why did you exclude the iPhone SE?

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by pmontra »

eimrine wrote: post #28
sourcecodeplz wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's just an exercise though really. You NEED a smartphone nowadays for everyday life: banking, gym access, maps, etc.

You can have a non-ios non-android device for maps, visit a non-requiring a smartphone gym, use a plastic card instead of NFC and a website instead of bank app. Also use phone/email for voice/text conversations instead of 14 apps every one of which are full of ads.

Yes to all of that except for banking. I have to confirm login and every operation with either an OTP generated by the app of the bank or with a fingerprint in the app of the bank. In the best case they could run on am emulator on my laptop but I never checked if it works.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by flyingcircus3 »

mighmi wrote: post #135
jauntywundrkind wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who else has cheap data sims? Is this still a killer feature of GoogleFi alone (one time $5 fee for a data sim)? I really wish companies would be happy to sell data. Making a bunch of addon charges to get me to he point where I can consume data is such a defiance of what these companies best utility should be: carrying data. The one other thing that almost wholly shapes who I'd go with for an MVNO is what speed I get…

Mint Mobile is $15/month for unlimited.

That's $10 more than I pay for Mint Mobile.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by kbenson »

flyingcircus3 wrote: post #155
mighmi wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mint Mobile is $15/month for unlimited.

That's $10 more than I pay for Mint Mobile.

Yeah, if the constant youtube ads with Ryan Reynolds I see are anything to go by, they've dropped their price once or twice.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by kaba0 »

_ea1k wrote: post #16

Apple messaging lockin is having the desired impact. Combine that with Google's mess of a strategy and it is easy to see why this is happening. It is why it is so critical to hire the right people in leadership to avoid squandering key, already successful, strategic positions.

That’s just such a US. American problem that it is honestly, kind of funny in a dumb way from any other part of the world. Like SMS itself is a legacy, insecure tech, it really should not be used at all anymore, unless you really only know their phone number. Knowing that you are not sending SMS when you see a blue bubble, but apple just conveniently put their internet-based message system into the same app is not a hard concept. Similarly, you can install Telegram, Whatsapp, Messenger, Signal, Element X (which I all have installed besides Whatsapp) and communicate with people available through those application at the utterly tiny inconvenience of having to open that app first.

You can’t send images/videos through a Short Messaging Service, period. That’s not apple being anticompetitive, this is literally the technology’s limitation. It is also terrible from an encoding point of view, and probably why the rest of the world had no problem ditching it for most things, as sending an Unicode message takes up plenty characters, making you have to send 2 messages even with moderately long text. (I remember removing ‘ö’s and spaces when I was a child and had stricter limits on the number of SMSs in my plan.

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Post by diebeforei485 »

partiallypro wrote: post #122

Does this mean the US government can finally start treating Apple the way it treats Microsoft, etc when it does clearly anti-competitive things? They get away with murder sometimes and no one bats an eye. Even here on HN, it's full of people that turn a blind eye because they have a love for Apple. Everything as spun as "looking out for the user" as if not using USB-C, locking out RCS, the "Apple Tax" etc are anythin…

I don't think not using USB-C qualifies as an antitrust issue.

It is appropriate to focus on the App Store commission, absolutely.

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Post by [deleted] »

djhworld wrote: post #131

I'm thinking of making the switch to iPhone this year once the USB-C model comes out Whether I regret it, not sure, I mean Android isn't _that_ bad really and the Samsung phones are good, but I think Apple have nailed the ecosystem thing a lot better than what google have.

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Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by meragrin_ »

khazhoux wrote: post #108
_ea1k wrote: post #16

Apple messaging lockin is having the desired impact. Combine that with Google's mess of a strategy and it is easy to see why this is happening. It is why it is so critical to hire the right people in leadership to avoid squandering key, already successful, strategic positions.

What is the messaging lock-in? I have lots of text threads with mixed Android+iPhone users, and never have any problem.

SMS can only handle a certain number of phone numbers. If a non-iPhone user receives a group message where their number is past the limit, they cannot reply. It has happened with my mother a number of times.

https://www.android.com/get-the-message/

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