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Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by redwall_hp »

khazhoux wrote: post #108
_ea1k wrote: post #16

Apple messaging lockin is having the desired impact. Combine that with Google's mess of a strategy and it is easy to see why this is happening. It is why it is so critical to hire the right people in leadership to avoid squandering key, already successful, strategic positions.

What is the messaging lock-in? I have lots of text threads with mixed Android+iPhone users, and never have any problem.

I'm not sure if I even have any regular contacts who have iPhones, as an iPhone user.

Everyone uses Discord or Facebook Messenger. Or Slack for coworkers.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by partiallypro »

Does this mean the US government can finally start treating Apple the way it treats Microsoft, etc when it does clearly anti-competitive things? They get away with murder sometimes and no one bats an eye. Even here on HN, it's full of people that turn a blind eye because they have a love for Apple. Everything as spun as "looking out for the user" as if not using USB-C, locking out RCS, the "Apple Tax" etc are anything but anti-competitive behavior or straight gouging. Apple to this day is treated like it's late 90s 5% market share self. This isn't the 90s anymore.

Edit: Instantly being downvoted is ironic.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by 2OEH8eoCRo0 »

glimshe wrote: post #105
bitsandboots wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't get "Android Auto" and "Android Automotive" They aren't open source, and when they don't work, your car is left with a weird system that can't be substituted. They make it less likely that I'll want to buy a car with them. What's so good about it versus just using bluetooth and a phone mount? Could be crazy, but figure buggy software should be something I can swap out, not integrated into a car many times mor…

Android Auto is able to show your current route/map to the car's screen. Android can do that reasonably successfully, so it's worth the price of admission for this reason alone. This said, there are a few usability annoyances and other failures elsewhere in the overall experience. But this particular feature works pretty well.

I liked using Android Auto on the phone w/ a Bluetooth connection to my car until they killed it. It was perfect and I was furious when they removed that feature.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by CSMastermind »

alistairSH wrote: post #115
khazhoux wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is the messaging lock-in? I have lots of text threads with mixed Android+iPhone users, and never have any problem.

Those plain SMS threads are green instead of blue. That lets iPhone owners judge Android owners from afar. /s Only half kidding. The real issue is just SMS vs data. And a little bit of feature parity - it's changed a few times, but until recently, if I "liked" a message in an SMS thread, we'd all see something like "Alistair like 'something said by somebody'" instead of just applying the thumb-up icon. This only gets…

I've bumped into a number of iPhone users who seemingly randomly don't get my text messages.

I've switched largely to communicating over alternative platforms since text messages can be unreliable.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by macintosh-hd »

aluminussoma wrote: post #19

I am planning to make the switch this year. As a long time Pixel user, Google's support of its own hardware has been subpar. My phone was only officially supported for 3 years. They will increase support for new phones, probably because Apple does the same. It is too little, too late for me.

I had an early pixel and the Pixel 4 coming out and being ass was what drove me to iPhone. I wanted a phone with clean software, instant updates, and face unlock. The Pixel 4 being bad made me realize that the iPhone had all of those things for a long time.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by ars »

tomjen3 wrote: post #92
_ea1k wrote: post #16

Apple messaging lockin is having the desired impact. Combine that with Google's mess of a strategy and it is easy to see why this is happening. It is why it is so critical to hire the right people in leadership to avoid squandering key, already successful, strategic positions.

Its annoying as hell, because iMessage isn't really useful when most of the people I write to don't have an iPhone. 100% I blame Google though, they need to get their ass together and make their own. It needs to work with everbody who already have a google account and they need to commit to it for 10 year minimum. Then it is reasonable for Apple to create a system so they can talk together.

Google created RCS - it does exactly what you are requesting.

But support for it is tepid - even Google Voice doesn't support it.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by alexdbird »

sho_hn wrote: post #36
prox wrote: post #5

iPhone has always been a superior experience to me. While it may not have that tinkering ability like an Android, on the whole Apps are much higher quality, more paying customers as a dev, lots of things that just work between devices. I think it’s deserved in that sense.

I have both types of phones, an Android one privately and an iPhone for work, and in direct comparison I honestly prefer the Android user experience. It's not that I love Android, but the iPhone feels so often clunky to me. - There's a greater reliance on gesture-based tricks, which I find unintuitive and undiscoverable - I often feel stressed when using the iPhone because I can't figure out how to do basic things wh…

> There's the green bar at the top indicating I'm still in the call, but I cannot figure out how to get back to it.

For future reference, you tap the green bar.

> approve it in some well hidden sub-section

I have a feeling this might be deliberate friction to make social engineering harder.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by macintosh-hd »

AuthorizedCust wrote: post #48

Android’s problem is Pixel is the only good one, and it has not been flagship quality since the Pixel 2. The 3 had odd issues, the 4 had a laughable battery life, and 5-7 are a weird mix of midrange and flagship capability (trending towards flagship, but not in the club yet). All other Android vendors are on a continuum of crap, between these points: 1. loaded with bloat and customizations that aren’t better than wha…

Meanwhile, Google steps on the rake of not putting enough battery in the phone every single time. I swear I've not seen a single flagship pixel review that hasn't mentioned bad battery. If it's bad out of the box, how bad will it be in 2 years?

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by ars »

mydriasis wrote: post #2

> Despite inflation numbers falling through the quarter and ongoing strength in the job market, consumers hesitated to upgrade their devices amid market uncertainty.” > Apple’s resilience was driven by strong promotions across postpaid and prepaid. Verizon, AT&T and T-Mobile continued to offer $800+ promo credits for the iPhone 14 while old-generation iPhones were also steeply discounted across prepaid. We are seeing…

> going dumb phone next month, which is _even cheaper_

You sure it's cheaper? I've been unable to find a dump phone for a good price - a used smartphone on eBay is far far cheaper. Also a Chinese android phone, and just don't use the "smart" parts.

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