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Worldcoin isn’t as bad as it sounds: It’s worse

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Re: Worldcoin isn’t as bad as it sounds: It’s worse

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Post by arketyp »

arcticbull wrote: post #5

Like any other non-coin crypto tech, Worldcoin doesn't do what it set out to do because it doesn't solve the oracle problem. If you trust their orb, it generates a wallet for you - but anyone, human or otherwise - can use that wallet. There's a black market in China for these identities already [1] and of course the response from Worldcoin was there's nothing they can do - because there's nothing they can do. So this…

It's funny how, in the end, the ultimate and perhaps only proof of personhood is being a person, engaged in the world. Sort of how the ultimate decentralized currency is encompassed in the global market of rising and falling economic powers. The oracle problem is a problem because there are no oracles. There is only the test of time. Or something along that line.

Re: Worldcoin isn’t as bad as it sounds: It’s worse

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Post by unboxingelf »

Worldcoin is simply another pre-mined, VC backed shitcoin - albeit worst because they’re building a biometrics database.

- VCs dump money in (SBF, a16z, etc)

- 25% of the coins are kept for the founders + investors

How many times do people have to get burned on these scams?

Obviously Sam has some street cred with the govt else they would have pulled him infront of congress like when zuck tried to launch Libre.

Re: Worldcoin isn’t as bad as it sounds: It’s worse

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Post by idlewords »

JohnFen wrote: post #3
gumballindie wrote: post #2

I am seeing a pattern here and I am starting to believe that Sam Altman is an Accelerationist: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerationism A lot of his actions, investments and marketing strategy seem to point in that direction.

Interesting. I wonder how he would characterize his belief system. I personally have a very dim view of him, mostly because of Worldcoin (which is how he came onto my radar). His work with OpenAI confirms my unease with his efforts and makes me wonder what his goals actually are.

Altman is proof that there is no IQ cap on human stupidity.

Re: Worldcoin isn’t as bad as it sounds: It’s worse

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Post by JohnFen »

yreg wrote: post #15

I don't think Worldcoin is the solution, but I'm interested in hearing what the rest of you think the solution to the bots-indistiguishable-to-humans problem could look like? Or should we just accept that the times of interacting over internet with strangers you can believe to be humans is over? The only idea I see is for some certificates handed out by government to citizens and I absolutely hate it even in a democr…

I haven't heard of, and can't think of, a solution to this problem that doesn't introduce much larger problems. Big picture, I don't think the problem of distinguishing humans from bots online is a big enough deal that we should take hits in other areas to solve it.

The least-harm solution, as far as I can see right now, is to just accept that the internet cannot be made trustworthy in this way. The only way to know for sure the nature of who you're dealing with will be to deal with them in person. Much like it has always been.

Re: Worldcoin isn’t as bad as it sounds: It’s worse

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Post by brnt »

arketyp wrote: post #21
arcticbull wrote: post #5

Like any other non-coin crypto tech, Worldcoin doesn't do what it set out to do because it doesn't solve the oracle problem. If you trust their orb, it generates a wallet for you - but anyone, human or otherwise - can use that wallet. There's a black market in China for these identities already [1] and of course the response from Worldcoin was there's nothing they can do - because there's nothing they can do. So this…

It's funny how, in the end, the ultimate and perhaps only proof of personhood is being a person, engaged in the world. Sort of how the ultimate decentralized currency is encompassed in the global market of rising and falling economic powers. The oracle problem is a problem because there are no oracles. There is only the test of time. Or something along that line.

People still don't understand the 'this is not a pipe' painting...

Re: Worldcoin isn’t as bad as it sounds: It’s worse

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Post by ohgodplsno »

gonehome wrote: post #7

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Absolute and utter bullshit, and you know it. Sam Altman is always in for a single person: himself. I have never seen less altruistic, less simple to understand than him [0]. Everything, the world ID, the money, the coins, is just a pretense for a single purpose: that he gets involved in everything whenever the idea of a global ID appears anywhere in the world. Or an ID at all. What's that Alabama, you want to create a state ID ? For the low low price of the GDP of a small african country, you can have access to our World ID database of all Alabama-scanned eyeballs.

[0] Aside from Larry Elison, but there's still debate on whether he's actually human or not.

Re: Worldcoin isn’t as bad as it sounds: It’s worse

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Post by lerpgame »

arketyp wrote: post #21
arcticbull wrote: post #5

Like any other non-coin crypto tech, Worldcoin doesn't do what it set out to do because it doesn't solve the oracle problem. If you trust their orb, it generates a wallet for you - but anyone, human or otherwise - can use that wallet. There's a black market in China for these identities already [1] and of course the response from Worldcoin was there's nothing they can do - because there's nothing they can do. So this…

It's funny how, in the end, the ultimate and perhaps only proof of personhood is being a person, engaged in the world. Sort of how the ultimate decentralized currency is encompassed in the global market of rising and falling economic powers. The oracle problem is a problem because there are no oracles. There is only the test of time. Or something along that line.

reputation based

Re: Worldcoin isn’t as bad as it sounds: It’s worse

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Post by confoundcofound »

arketyp wrote: post #21
arcticbull wrote: post #5

Like any other non-coin crypto tech, Worldcoin doesn't do what it set out to do because it doesn't solve the oracle problem. If you trust their orb, it generates a wallet for you - but anyone, human or otherwise - can use that wallet. There's a black market in China for these identities already [1] and of course the response from Worldcoin was there's nothing they can do - because there's nothing they can do. So this…

It's funny how, in the end, the ultimate and perhaps only proof of personhood is being a person, engaged in the world. Sort of how the ultimate decentralized currency is encompassed in the global market of rising and falling economic powers. The oracle problem is a problem because there are no oracles. There is only the test of time. Or something along that line.

Exactly, tech is hellbent on preserving our humanity while discarding the embodied world that makes us human. It's a schizoid's fantasy.

Re: Worldcoin isn’t as bad as it sounds: It’s worse

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Post by JohnFen »

brnt wrote: post #26
arketyp wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's funny how, in the end, the ultimate and perhaps only proof of personhood is being a person, engaged in the world. Sort of how the ultimate decentralized currency is encompassed in the global market of rising and falling economic powers. The oracle problem is a problem because there are no oracles. There is only the test of time. Or something along that line.

People still don't understand the 'this is not a pipe' painting...

Indeed. I have better luck, though, with "The map is not the territory".
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