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What can the average person do with program names, people involved and locations? Program names mean nothing unless you can look up their details as they're usually fancy codenames that spark everyone's tin foil hats. Makes for a great news story and a conversation on HN about "what it might be" but apart from that its useless.
> What can the average person do with program names, people involved and locations? What the average person can do with this information is not the point as far as I can tell. This information is being shared with people who are not the average person, and who do have the ability to investigate further.
Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites
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#612Since we are talking about something as fanciful as aliens, consider this perspective: There are no aliens because their existence runs counter to what the Bible says about God. Assuming the only creation God engaged in was planet earth, how he is described (as never changing) means that his revelation of himself in Christ (who was both human and God, in order that his death would be like our deaths, ((wages of sin i…
This doesn't even make sense. God being unchanging doesn't imply that the relationship of all created beings to God must be the same. Genesis makes it clear that humanity was created in a state of perfection and then fell from grace - and yet God didn't change, despite humanity's relationship to God changing. Therefore it is possible within Biblical canon for created beings to exist which do not need salvation through grace - humans are an exception, not the rule.
I mean, within the Bible, there are humans who just don't die and go straight to Heaven because God likes them and decides to waive the immutable stain of original sin like a parking ticket, because apparently even God's rules can have exceptions.
Also, your assumption that the only creation God engaged with was planet Earth is fallacious. Genesis clearly states that God created the Heavens and the Earth. He created the entire universe. The Bible doesn't mention the dinosaurs either (no, Leviathan doesn't count, file that under the common Indo-European motif of chaoskampf) but we know they existed.
I'm not even religious but I can see your point of view is a bit too limited even within Christendom. CS Lewis was writing about aliens within the framework of Christianity a century ago. Many religious people can square that circle quite easily, simply by assuming God is not strictly limited to what is contained within Biblical canon.
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> and also Aliens can at most go close to lightspeed. You're an expert in alien technology and civilizations far more technologically advanced than we are?
Not being able to move faster than c is a pretty hard limit on everything in the universe. Unless our model of physics, the same one that predicted gravitational waves, black holes, time dilation, gravitational lending, etc. correctly is so fundamentally wrong that FTL travel is possible without things that probably don’t exist like negative mass aliens would need to spend at least decades to get to and from Earth. F…
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Seems to be a lot of non-answers to me? Am I missing something?
Not sure if you're missing something. Are you referring to the whole thing, the area I thought was interesting, or..? This isn't a very easy reply to parse.
For example, his description of the holographic principle is what you'd get if you asked a high school student to make up a cool sounding story based on the phrase alone. It reminded me of a scene from Neon Genesis Evangelion, where one of the Angels "projects" a 3D shadow.
To put it mildly: "That's not how any of that works, at all."
The holographic principle is an observation from theoretical physics that it's possible to reframe the laws of physics over a volume of space as a different set of mathematics on the surface. This is akin to the Fourier transform, it's just reprojecting the mathematics, not people! It's not a teleporter between parallel universes!
For anyone interested: the concept arose from how black holes grow. If a black hole grows twice as heavy, then instead of its volume becoming twice as big (like you'd expect), its surface area doubles instead. Holographic theory is based on this and says that everything in a volume of space can be simulated with a "hologram" on the surface of that space -- you don't need a x^3 simulation, an x^2 one will do. The idea is that there is a lot of redundancy in mostly empty space. Physics doesn't "allow" arbitrary things to go on in there, so the redundancy can be squeezed out by doing all of the maths on the surface, which is less redundant.
Black holes are maximally packed with physical information, so their surface is completely non-redundant, and hence must grow in proportion to their mass. As you add more stuff, you need more surface, and hence the event horizon expands outwards, providing more surface area.
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Clearly then they are also hiding the hollow earth and the lizardmen and the sentient troll drolls. But that argument doesn't work, right? Because just because they hid something previously doesn't mean they are guaranteed to be hiding what you want now.
Why are so many people here aggressively attacking the character of people who are open to non human intelligence and visitation? There's no reason for hostility and open-mindedness has minimal consequences, even on this issue.
Re: Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites
#616Since we are talking about something as fanciful as aliens, consider this perspective: There are no aliens because their existence runs counter to what the Bible says about God. Assuming the only creation God engaged in was planet earth, how he is described (as never changing) means that his revelation of himself in Christ (who was both human and God, in order that his death would be like our deaths, ((wages of sin i…
It's possible to understand these passages as referring to God's nature and character, rather than His actions. In other words, God is consistent in His attributes — His love, justice, mercy, and so on — but this doesn't necessarily mean that His actions or creations are limited to a single pattern. After all, even within the Bible, we see God interacting with different people in different ways at different times.
So, to apply this to the topic at hand: God's immutability might not prevent Him from creating life elsewhere in the universe. The incarnation of Christ was a unique event in human history, but this doesn't necessarily mean that God couldn't or wouldn't interact with other life forms in a way that is appropriate to their nature and circumstances. God's consistency in character doesn't restrict Him to only one method of interaction or revelation.
It's worth noting that other interpretations exist which might allow for the possibility of extraterrestrial life without contradicting the idea of an unchanging God.
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#617I’m a huge skeptic, but I’ve been following this very closely over the past few months. Fermi’s paradox has two good answers — we don’t see aliens because they don’t exist, or we don’t see them because they are here already. They should be here already. The paradox is about why we don’t see them. Being skeptical is different than doubt-by-default. A skeptic is curious and slow to judge. So with great curiosity, I’ve…
> Fermi’s paradox has two good answers — we don’t see aliens because they don’t exist, or we don’t see them because they are here already. These are not "good" answers to the Fermi paradox, and definitely not the only answers. Much better answers (in my opinion) are things like: their signals haven't reached us yet; they haven't developed interstellar communications or travel yet; they haven't developed intelligent l…
The problem with this stance for literally the past 20 years is that the Alcubierre drive, which has yet to be disproven in concept (despite requiring exotic matter and high amounts of energy) has been known about since the 90’s, and at least makes FTL travel, theoretically possible.
This is why I am skeptical about modern-day skeptics: Have they simply all collectively not read the Alcubierre paper, or the expert physicist responses to it, despite having had 20 years now to do so? Do they really think that simply not knowing how to implement it is an argument against it? How nearsighted would you have to be to assume that we’ve discovered all the loopholes already?
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/star-treks-warp-d...
Re: Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites
#618Since we are talking about something as fanciful as aliens, consider this perspective: There are no aliens because their existence runs counter to what the Bible says about God. Assuming the only creation God engaged in was planet earth, how he is described (as never changing) means that his revelation of himself in Christ (who was both human and God, in order that his death would be like our deaths, ((wages of sin i…
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They didn’t. Supposedly It crashed or landed and they built a building over it.
Sounds like an urban legend to me. This guy supposedly knows "exactly where it is" yet isn't willing to reveal the location, except it is "outside the US." Has he seen it? Nope. Let me guess: even if you go to the building, you won't be able to find anything because it's in some secret below ground level a normal person can't access.
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What is non-earth origin DNA that you mention in your reply to another post? How would you know it was not from earth? Is it as simple as there being no evidence of any contamination by hair colorants, straighteners, shampoos, or any products sold by Proctor and Gamble? I too would like to see actual links to any evidence or documentation of these events and products so I can see for myself. Bigfoot is almost a cotta…
I would start with the FBI files from the 70's and go from there. That's where it all begins. Apparently the hair had a structure that was not carbon based… the same kind of structure that Grusch talks about from the spaceship that crashed in Italy in 1933 which was covered up by the Five Eyes and the Vatican. Vatican vault apparently has samples as well.
Anyway, a link to something about the hair that isn't carbon-based so it can't be from around here would be great since you brought up that subject. It's still a "tits or GTFO" place here on the intertubes.
Thanks, pardner.