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Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites

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Re: Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites

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Post by likeabbas »

blincoln wrote: post #594
likeabbas wrote: post #579

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You are 100% correct that this could be a giant psy-op constructed to convince people of something insane like aliens. From what I’ve heard, the ICIG has gotten testimony under oath from people purported to be apart of the reverse engineering programs, and they have provided locations and photo evidence. There’s also a report that one of these craft are [so large that it can’t be moved](0). Congress could send a spec…

I think you're misunderstanding me. I'm not suggesting it's a giant psy-op. I'm suggesting that it could be sort of like putting unique watermarks on mp3s when customers download them, so that when those mp3s show up on file-sharing sites, the publisher can figure out who uploaded them and close their account or file a lawsuit. It wouldn't be enough to literally watermark the real secret material. One would want fake…

Whatever it may end up being, I think it’s imperative that congress investigate this because of what you’re saying is true then this is not good for the American people to be led on like this.

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Post by wnscooke »

Since we are talking about something as fanciful as aliens, consider this perspective: There are no aliens because their existence runs counter to what the Bible says about God.

Assuming the only creation God engaged in was planet earth, how he is described (as never changing) means that his revelation of himself in Christ (who was both human and God, in order that his death would be like our deaths, ((wages of sin is death)), but whose divinity would allow him to rise from the dead ((thereby proving the penalty of sin - death - had been paid for _eternally_ {{being God}})) means that any other creation in the universe would need to be in a similar situation as humanity on earth...otherwise Christ as God/Human is totally senseless and useless on these other planets...which can not be since God does not change. Thus, no aliens, anywhere.

Now before ppl go off screeching about religion, this is in no way an attempt to convert. It is just a perspective made possible by someone who reads the Bible and likes to try to place any modern idea against it, and maybe the same might help someone else grapple with the immensity of It All. It also doesn't mean that there is no need for humanity to keep searching and exploring the stars.

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Post by IAmGraydon »

wnscooke wrote: post #602

Since we are talking about something as fanciful as aliens, consider this perspective: There are no aliens because their existence runs counter to what the Bible says about God. Assuming the only creation God engaged in was planet earth, how he is described (as never changing) means that his revelation of himself in Christ (who was both human and God, in order that his death would be like our deaths, ((wages of sin i…

If you want to take an approach that is literally the opposite of the scientific method then, yeah, sure. This is HackerNews though, and we tend to stick to verifiable evidence here.

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Post by icedchai »

likeabbas wrote: post #599
icedchai wrote: post #589

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How'd they move it there in the first place?

They didn’t. Supposedly It crashed or landed and they built a building over it.

Sounds like an urban legend to me. This guy supposedly knows "exactly where it is" yet isn't willing to reveal the location, except it is "outside the US." Has he seen it? Nope. Let me guess: even if you go to the building, you won't be able to find anything because it's in some secret below ground level a normal person can't access.

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Post by techbuttman »

Shawnj2 wrote: post #553
avaldez_ wrote: post #513

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They have to abide by the rules of the universe that WE know of. The universe is unbelievably big but also unfathomably OLD, so I'm sure there's been plenty of time for a number of civilizations to reach a technological level vastly larger than ours. Our latest technological revolution started just a hundred years ago. Imagine what just 10,000 more years can do. I mean, we thought (and our math said so) that the spee…

Not necessarily, from what I heard humanity being alone is actually an extremely plausible solution to the Fermi paradox because we exist close to the beginning of the total lifespan of the universe.

The universe is thought to be about 13.8 billion years old. The Earth is about 4.6 billion years old. I don't think humanity has even been around for 500k years.

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Post by Shawnj2 »

techbuttman wrote: post #605
Shawnj2 wrote: post #553

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Not necessarily, from what I heard humanity being alone is actually an extremely plausible solution to the Fermi paradox because we exist close to the beginning of the total lifespan of the universe.

The universe is thought to be about 13.8 billion years old. The Earth is about 4.6 billion years old. I don't think humanity has even been around for 500k years.

Yep so life on earth evolved about as early as reasonably possible.

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Post by icedchai »

whycome wrote: post #20
jmclnx wrote: post #3

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Glad to hear that, not like there is nothing else important happening in the US. What next, hearings on Big Foot :)

The hearing is utterly bizarre and surreal. Like theater but everyone is keeping a straight face. (also, 'Mrs. Luna' is asking questions and her character name seems too on-the-nose.) Former commander says he didn't believe in UFOs and defends himself with "I never watched history channel or anything like that" -- as though that's a source for UFOs rather than...history.

It actually is. The show "Ancient Aliens" has been around for almost 15 years!

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Post by OhioMan2943 »

lusus_naturae wrote: post #93

It is irresponsible to simply call this "hiding". It is more reasonable to assume this is psyops by an adversary, and as such releasing information without doing due diligence is just causing harm. Overall, if such events are true I wonder what effect this will have on politics driven by religion-based agendas (many who drive such agenda are not even pious or adherents in any form of the word). Maybe this is finally…

If it is a psyop by an adversary why hasn't it been called out as one yet? It would be the easiest counter and the government continually calls out China on its use of TikTok as a cultural weapon with little to no consequences.

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Post by OhioMan2943 »

einrealist wrote: post #284
o-90 wrote: post #234

One explanation for this is that another country just has better military technology than the United States. And the cover-up/conspiracy is that the US government knows this, but just made up something about aliens because they knew that Americans were stupid enough to believe it. It exploits a very glaring blind spot in a lot of Americans' minds (that there is no way we couldn't be #1).

I am more convinced that modern radar and sensor technology is susceptible to accidental or even malicious interference. And if there is a cover-up, its more likely to prevent harm to the businesses of the contractors and technology providers and to prevent adversaries to learn possible exploits. I highly doubt that there was "visual contact" with those anomalies.

All four crew involved in the popular 2004 navy "pill incident" video claimed to have eyewitness accounts. https://youtu.be/ZA-h3dIeD_A

This was further expanded upon in the hearing

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Post by OhioMan2943 »

SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #350
hn-thrwaway202 wrote: post #331

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Government agencies have hidden pretty astounding things in the past: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_Committee

Clearly then they are also hiding the hollow earth and the lizardmen and the sentient troll drolls. But that argument doesn't work, right? Because just because they hid something previously doesn't mean they are guaranteed to be hiding what you want now.

Why are so many people here aggressively attacking the character of people who are open to non human intelligence and visitation? There's no reason for hostility and open-mindedness has minimal consequences, even on this issue.
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