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Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites

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Re: Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites

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For those asking "Why now?" ... here's a couple wild takes: The Interstellar Squid have arrived. They're hanging out around Saturn (cf "largest comet ever"). Even after a century of preparation and propaganda, there is a large fraction of humanity who refuses to conceive of intelligence other than human. This is the last gasp at preparing them. That, or the political corruption has gotten so rank that they're scrapin…

It's to distract us from Google destroying the web with attestation! :)

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#592

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The existence of National Security Advisor General Mike Flynn would seem to support the thesis that we have crazy people who lie at the highest levels of government.

Don’t you think congress should investigate these crazy people then?

I wouldn't trust Congress to do a good job investigating practically anything. They have their share of crazies and chronic liars.

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I find myself torn between my STEM-educated skeptic mind and my numerous DMT-induced visits to hyper-reality and communication with unfathomably advanced hyper-dimensional beings mind. I find it difficult to accept that these experiences were just the products of my own subconscious or imagination, as they were far beyond the capabilities of my wildest dreams and just felt too real, too alien, and too consistent. There has been some recent breakthroughs by Andrew Gallimore that have allowed researchers to extend the DMT experience indefinitely via the DMTx project, and the first trials have been completed by a group of serious researchers, all PhDs. They report extended contact with hyper-dimensional aliens/beings, on numerous sessions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Myq_Hc_39aI&t=1898s

Now, I find it difficult to believe there isn't a plethora of intelligent life out there in the universe. There are just far too many star systems. I also find it difficult to believe that any have to come to visit. There is no evidence to support it, and think about it: the time, energy, and technology required to travel the vast expanse of space to reach Earth are unimaginably huge. And if they had that kind of technology, it would seem unlikely that they would routinely crash once they got here. Furthermore, we've only been producing radio waves for a short period of time, nowhere near long enough to signal a remote civilization that we're even here (I'm not sure our radio waves would even be detectable at those distances). And why would they even want to? At that level of sophistication, we would be nothing more than ants to them. Bacteria in a petri dish.

Yet, even we, as humans, spend a lot of effort researching ants. And bacteria, in petri dishes. And if the collective DMT community's experiences are to be believed, and we have contacted and communicated with advanced alien intelligences, they usually seem to be quite interested and curious about us too. This is a huge leap, but maybe the universe isn't what it seems. It could be data, data that could be manipulated from outside the confines of the simulation. Or, maybe there are higher dimensions of reality, that we are currently (mostly) incapable of detecting from our vantage point. Maybe the aliens exist in higher dimensions, and use these UFOs as lower dimension probes, that don't have to travel vast distances of space because they don't originate from other star systems. Maybe they crash because they're SUPPOSED to be found, maybe they want us to reverse engineer them to learn something, to accelerate our technological and scientific advancement.

Or maybe it's all poppycock. Maybe we're the first species that will possibly achieve interstellar transportation, and it will us that are the aliens visiting other primitive worlds. Only time will tell.

Re: Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites

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In the scenario I'm suggesting, if I understand you correctly, the ICIG talked to the same people that Grusch had. Those people said something to the effect of "yes, I have seen intelligence documents and other evidence that described alien spacecraft and biological material." I.e. Grusch and the people he talked to believe what they're saying because of documents intentionally made to appear legitimate. A well-desig…

You are 100% correct that this could be a giant psy-op constructed to convince people of something insane like aliens. From what I’ve heard, the ICIG has gotten testimony under oath from people purported to be apart of the reverse engineering programs, and they have provided locations and photo evidence. There’s also a report that one of these craft are [so large that it can’t be moved](0). Congress could send a spec…

I think you're misunderstanding me. I'm not suggesting it's a giant psy-op. I'm suggesting that it could be sort of like putting unique watermarks on mp3s when customers download them, so that when those mp3s show up on file-sharing sites, the publisher can figure out who uploaded them and close their account or file a lawsuit. It wouldn't be enough to literally watermark the real secret material. One would want fake programmes as well, so that if someone were only feeding descriptipns to a foreign country, it would still be enough to see that hostile foreign country A was passed information including information about fake secret programmes 106, 782, and 18023, and only CIA analyst Jack Smith has access to all three.

I do absolutely think that Congress should follow the trail and see if there's physical evidence. I'm just saying that I think that what they'll find is that there was never real evidence, just intentionally fake documents and maybe faked artifacts.

Potentially, it could also be a mix of true details, but wrapped in a false backstory. e.g. if an intelligence agency captured a Russian weapon prototype in some underhanded way that would cause a political incident, and wanted to have people reverse-engineer it, they could remove any identifying markings, then let three people examine it separately. Reverse-engineer A would be told "it's from a vehicle of unknown origin that crashed in Colorado". Reverse-engineer B would be told "it's from a North Korean military satellite". Reverse-engineer C would be told "it's from a crash site in Wyoming". All three might be provided with different, faked photo evidence that matched the story as part of their documentation. If any of those stories showed up in counterintelligence records, the intelligence agency would know which engineer couldn't be trusted. Everything else I described for the simpler scenario applies there too.

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Because they work for a week and finish up on Friday... Like everybody else.

well that is rather curious. for a site with the demographics that it has, one might expect an acknowledgement that thou shalt not deploy on friday.

They're just like us. They deploy on Wednesday and hang out until Friday when they tell the boss it's completed.

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If anyone is interested in seeing rigorously analyzed video material, I recommend the YouTube channel of Mick West[1]. He is an experienced programmer that has written a software to combine available data into a 3D space. This makes it possible to recreate situations and validate/invalidate hypotheses by stepping through time and looking from different camera angles. He also analyzed the famous gimbal and flir videos…

The way you describe it it seems like Mick West is the quintessential HN poster; thinks his success as a software engineer makes him a supreme expert on other fields.

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Or maybe it's better to compare to personal modes of traffic and not airliners?

I mean sure. Cars, for example, are significantly more dangerous than airliners and people crash all the time. But if alien craft are as safe as cars then that just leads back to my original point that airliners are better at traveling safely through our atmosphere than physics-defying alien craft.

Or there is a hell of a lot more than we think

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#598

What convinces all of the aliens to crash their UFOs in America? Or is every govt part of the conspiracy?

Why does it just have to be America? RU/CN landmasses also huge for catching things, and if we aren't trying to talk about it openly they may not be either for similar reasons.

For entertainment, consider that the Cold War could have been about finding intact UAPs, at least in some of the scuffles.

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There’s a report that one of these craft are so large that it can’t be moved https://youtu.be/r-zjLas_WbM

How'd they move it there in the first place?

They didn’t. Supposedly It crashed or landed and they built a building over it.

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Don’t you think congress should investigate these crazy people then?

I wouldn't trust Congress to do a good job investigating practically anything. They have their share of crazies and chronic liars.

I used to think most politicians were cooks. Now I realize most of them are very smart and have very different private opinions from the ones they scream at their base. This topic is a good example of showing how intelligent some congressmen (who you thought were crazy) are. For example https://twitter.com/cspan/status/1684249806300905480?s=46&t=...
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