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Tesla created secret team to suppress thousands of driving range complaints

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Re: Tesla created secret team to suppress thousands of driving range complaints

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Why do they call it a 'secret team'? Why do they call it 'complaints'? As said in the article, these are not complaints, but service appointments. Creating a team to handle these unnecessary appointments is completely normal. There's nothing secret about this team.

I was confused too. Title and first part suggested they were trying to suppress discussion about range issues. Then the rest was about cancelling service appointments. I'm pretty sure this is just a hit piece.

Re: Tesla created secret team to suppress thousands of driving range complaints

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Not just battery and range. I've had problems with the passenger side airbag not enabling, and turn signal not working. Both scary issues. Made appointments with the support. Both were cancelled outright by them (!). They tried to convince me that there was no problem, and it was all due to the way I use the car. They seemed to try everything to get out of appointments. My wife had to use the back seat for a month wh…

The airbags needing a software update in the first place is terrifying.

Re: Tesla created secret team to suppress thousands of driving range complaints

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Tbh though, going up a mountain is insanely more energy consuming than regular driving, so the range indicator can't possibly take this into consideration ahead of time unless you chart a specific trip. In the other direction, I've had the experience of the battery charge level continuously increasing while going down a long mountain road - infinite range!

According to TSLA, it takes into account elevation though...

"unless you chart a specific trip"

Re: Tesla created secret team to suppress thousands of driving range complaints

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Since cars have integrated phone-home diagnostic software, why would the government even allow automakers to advertise 'estimated' ranges for specific car models and not simply show actual averages?

That gets affected by the kind of people driving the car, and just because I buy a certain car doesn't mean I'm like the other people who bought it. Also, too easy to hack that.

Re: Tesla created secret team to suppress thousands of driving range complaints

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Just like a scene out of The Wolf of Wall Street. This company appears to be fraudulent to the very core.

I’ve thought that ever since they got caught rolling an EV down a hill for a promo video, after taking tons of money from a major automaker. Wait? That wasn’t Tesla? Okay, I guess there’s a level below “fraudulent to the very core”

Maybe this is what you were thinking:

https://techcrunch.com/2023/01/17/tesla-engineer-testifies-t...

Re: Tesla created secret team to suppress thousands of driving range complaints

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> slow is fast, keep it at 60 if you want the milage meter to not die as quick This also works in petrol cars: the air resistance efficiency falloff is dramatic at higher speeds.

The use of AC / Heat will also just burn through your battery or your gas at a much faster rate.

Does heating in internal combustion engine cars really affect fuel consumption? My assumption was that most cabin heat was waste heat from the engine, that would otherwise be vented out? Given the dismal efficiency of ICE, shouldn't it be enough to keep a cabin warm even in quite cold climates?

Re: Tesla created secret team to suppress thousands of driving range complaints

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I have a model Y. I hate almost everything about it. But most germane, The "Battery meter" at the top of the display is total bunk. That's got to be "rosy" numbers. It'll display a the battery in miles, but it's at least 25% inflated. However if you punch in a destination, you'll get exact numbers, and those are insanely reliable. It claims (and I don't believe any claims coming from tesla) that it'll factor wind, el…

I actually got stranded once for some hours because of the mileage indicator! Was driving back from a campsite that I turned out to not have charging compatibility with, but thought I had plenty of margin to get to the nearest charger. As I drove through the mountains however, I began noticing that a.) my battery was depleting much faster than expected and b.) I wasn’t seeing any houses and very few motorists. I watc…

Another option - although that depends on availability - would be roadside assistance, that can ironically bring a diesel generator to your car to give it some charge.

Re: Tesla created secret team to suppress thousands of driving range complaints

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I have a model Y. I hate almost everything about it. But most germane, The "Battery meter" at the top of the display is total bunk. That's got to be "rosy" numbers. It'll display a the battery in miles, but it's at least 25% inflated. However if you punch in a destination, you'll get exact numbers, and those are insanely reliable. It claims (and I don't believe any claims coming from tesla) that it'll factor wind, el…

I think the range is inflated, but I can get close to it by driving like an absolute grandpa. I think it's possible, but not realistic.

Re: Tesla created secret team to suppress thousands of driving range complaints

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Seems like it’s common across all EVs for the range to be inflated by around 20%, at least for freeway driving. In a recent review, a Tesla did a slightly better job than most of the cars tested, as far as portion of stated range achieved. https://youtu.be/fvwOa7TCd1E&t=36m15s

I used to have a Nissan Leaf. Same trip took 30% less charge, just because of the if was driving a behind a large track most of the way.

If you are driving close enough for drafting to have an effect, you are driving dangerously.

Re: Tesla created secret team to suppress thousands of driving range complaints

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> slow is fast, keep it at 60 if you want the milage meter to not die as quick This also works in petrol cars: the air resistance efficiency falloff is dramatic at higher speeds.

The use of AC / Heat will also just burn through your battery or your gas at a much faster rate.

Heat generally won't, in a modern ICE, that will capture a lot of the engine heat, though there are still electric and auxiliary heaters.
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