Please. If aliens were on earth there’d be lots of quality video and photos from people’s cellphones. Too many people with too many cellphones to not have any proof.
Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites
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#512I’m a huge skeptic, but I’ve been following this very closely over the past few months. Fermi’s paradox has two good answers — we don’t see aliens because they don’t exist, or we don’t see them because they are here already. They should be here already. The paradox is about why we don’t see them. Being skeptical is different than doubt-by-default. A skeptic is curious and slow to judge. So with great curiosity, I’ve…
I don't get why no one ever throws out time travel as an explanation over extraterrestrial. Given the limit of the speed of information and the expansion of the universe, there's a VERY small area that would even be aware of the signals we've started sending out over the past century to come looking. But Earth would be an extremely interesting destination....for future Earth. Though personally the most likely answer…
Time travel backwards is causality breaking, which is a far, far more important physical principle than relativity. Time travel forwards is quite simple though, but less exciting.
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> and also Aliens can at most go close to lightspeed. You're an expert in alien technology and civilizations far more technologically advanced than we are?
I mean there is one thing we can safely assume: their vehicles have to operate in the same universe as ours, at least when they are meant to be in ours at some point. Now they might know some tricks around the limitations of our universes physics, but even those tricks must do something measurably.
They have to abide by the rules of the universe that WE know of. The universe is unbelievably big but also unfathomably OLD, so I'm sure there's been plenty of time for a number of civilizations to reach a technological level vastly larger than ours. Our latest technological revolution started just a hundred years ago. Imagine what just 10,000 more years can do. I mean, we thought (and our math said so) that the speed of sound was a physical barrier just a _few_ years ago. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prandtl%E2%80%93Glauert_singul...)
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Sorry, to be clear my point is that 1. They have no reputations to put on the line 2. They didn't do anything risky This isn't like we're talking about the AF Chief of Staff or some major leader in a field. So there's nothing to put on the line, they were nobodies before this and once it dies off they will be nobodies again. Said differently, this whole debacle will make them MORE famous and employable than they were…
1. Grusch gave up his career in the intelligence community to whistleblow on this. He had everything to lose. 2. Grusch has testified under oath to the ICIG, both intelligence committees, and now to the house oversight committee. If he’s locking, they could lock him away indefinitely. Your entire argument is moot and you are looking for any excuse to discredit what’s being said. If you think he’s lying, ask your cong…
Does anybody ever go to jail for lying to Congress?
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I’d usually side with you and Hanlon‘s razor, but in this case… not trusting Trump with anything sharper than a children’s toy knife sounds pretty reasonable, no? Is it really so far-fetched some agencies would do everything in their power to keep a low profile and The Menace out of their business?
But why keep UFO intel away from him while letting him have highly-sensitive military intel that he could parley or leak? That’s the other part of this conspiracy that I don’t understand.
Some might be better than others at guarding their stuff, maybe?
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1. Grusch gave up his career in the intelligence community to whistleblow on this. He had everything to lose. 2. Grusch has testified under oath to the ICIG, both intelligence committees, and now to the house oversight committee. If he’s locking, they could lock him away indefinitely. Your entire argument is moot and you are looking for any excuse to discredit what’s being said. If you think he’s lying, ask your cong…
Does anybody ever go to jail for lying to Congress?
He’s made accusations against specific people and corporations saying they’ve been involved in illegal activities and withholding information from congress. People do go to jail for false accusations of this order
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I literally pointed you to a kaggle file of reports from a major UFO reporting organization. And with regard to Hindu UFOs, I was referring to Vimana. Not sure what you expect me to present as far as evidence goes when my point is "there is a ton of dubious evidence, but evidence none-the-less".
dude, your kaggle thing literally only shows reports from the US, Canada, UK, Germany, and Australia. did you not even look at it or are you lying?
There are 22k+ rows, and scrolling through the first few hundred I see Lithuania, Sweden, Denmark, Japan, and Peru.
I'm not sure why you're dedicated to the idea that no other countries having UFO sightings. Even if it was just clutter and balloons, it seems reasonable for people all over the world to make mistakes and thing something mundane is fantastic. It doesn't seem like a very useful point in either direction of the discussion.
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I literally pointed you to a kaggle file of reports from a major UFO reporting organization. And with regard to Hindu UFOs, I was referring to Vimana. Not sure what you expect me to present as far as evidence goes when my point is "there is a ton of dubious evidence, but evidence none-the-less".
> I literally pointed you to a kaggle file of reports from a major UFO reporting organization. Kaggle competition is a supporting evidence for you? > And with regard to Hindu UFOs, I was referring to Vimana. Those were depicted as chariots mostly drawn by flying horses or elephants in Ramayana & Mahabharata. Unless you consider flying horses as aliens. Also, these were written as poetic verses with generous doses of…
> Kaggle competition is a supporting evidence for you?
No, but NUFORC is?
> More of he-said-she-said trust-me-bro. Hence why I asserted these aren't worth discussing anymore
You're more than welcome to stop discussing it then?
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> The objects captured from fighter jet IR cameras discussed in the past have also had explanation of lens flares and focal aberrations One is a potential flare/focal aberration. The other two have no such explanation, and one of the three has radar tracking, followed by pilot interaction (David Fravor), then was videod by a second pilot on encounter (the video that was released. Keep in mind also that all three are…
There’s a pretty good chance the Nimitz incident was an intentional decoy self-test by the Navy IMO. Clouds give a radar return, so a projected plasma target would probably also give a radar return.
I'd tend to agree, but the fact that we are inventing top secret technology and programs to explain a sighting is itself a sign of a problem worth investigating, no?
Like, if that's a reasonable conclusion, then by leaving pilots misinformed we've effectively broadcast the tech to our adversaries. Maybe that was the intent, but it seems like a senselessly roundabout method if so.
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#520Probably dog / chimp, no?