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Way ahead of its time: The Remote Lounge NYC (2013)

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Re: Way ahead of its time: The Remote Lounge NYC (2013)

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Probably got demolished and turned into a bank or a Verizon store.

Probably not a bank. Banks are getting rid of physical service, not expanding it.

They keep opening new branches around here. They are glorified ATM lobbies with minimal staff who will often direct you to use an ATM for anything that an ATM can do. But they do keep opening them. I sometimes wonder if it's just a complicated real estate investment play.

Re: Way ahead of its time: The Remote Lounge NYC (2013)

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There are still some. In Milwaukee, and now Chicago, there's a spy-themed bar called The Safehouse. The Milwaukee one has survived for decades, and they're still regarded as pretty cool.

Milwaukee is a weird town (disclosure: my home town, but left awhile ago). If it wasn't so close to Chicago, people would talk about it like Seattle or Portland. It's quirky with a world-class art museum, the largest music festival in the world every summer, a very reasonable cost of living, world-class universities, and amazing outdoor opportunities sitting directly on Lake Michigan and being a 30 minute drive from…

I'm from Chicago, and I think Milwaukee is pretty cool. SummerFest was always so much better than Taste of Chicago... at least the acts that played there. I never even went, and I'm still confident that it's true.

One of my best friends lives in the suburbs along the lake, and it's similar to the north shore of Chicago. Nice neighborhood.

Re: Way ahead of its time: The Remote Lounge NYC (2013)

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I had heard about this place, but sadly never visited. But after it shut down I was part of a startup that built a way for people to do this with audio only -- via phones and a web browser. We intentionally avoided video and images after studying the way strangers interacted across different formats. Remote Lounge looks fun, but for us it was more about long conversations where you didn't care about the other person's looks. I sometimes feel nostalgic for this type of thing.

Re: Way ahead of its time: The Remote Lounge NYC (2013)

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I actually was the sole developer who wrote all the software that “networked” the custom hardware together. This project was so ahead of its time and yet required some rather arcane programming knowledge. So much fun though. AMA!

Did the smoking ban change any of the social dynamics in the bar?

Good question — I left in 2002 and the bar smoking ban took full effect in 2003, so I don't really know the answer.

Re: Way ahead of its time: The Remote Lounge NYC (2013)

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There is a misplaced apostrophe in the title.

I'm curious -- why the downvotes? Does someone think I'm incorrect? The title here, to me, reads "Way ahead of it is time: The Remote Lounge NYC." I had to think about for a bit before I realized what was going on. I just thought someone might want to correct it. Edit: I see it's wrong in the original, so we just keep it, I suppose.

I expect you were downvoted because your post isn't particularly interesting, and won't lead to thoughful discussion, let alone thoughtful discussion about the article in question. Sure, someone who doesn't know the difference between "its" and "it's" might learn something, but, while I'm not going to go so far as to say "that's not what HN is for", it's... well, kinda not what HN is for.

Another -- unfair -- reason is that some posts about grammar and spelling come off has holier-than-thou nitpicking. I don't believe that describes your particular post, but it's hard to convey tone/purpose in text, and people get annoyed by stuff like that.

I didn't downvote you (at 21 hours later, it doesn't matter at this point), but if your post was "in the way" of scrolling to more interesting conversations, I probably would have. I come to the comments on articles because I'm curious about what people are saying about the content of the article (and was thrilled in this case to find that a commenter here was actually the person who built the software that ran this bar). As much as I do believe that language and clarity is important, I don't particularly care if someone mistyped an apostrophe into the article's title. It's just noise to me.

Re: Way ahead of its time: The Remote Lounge NYC (2013)

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post #71

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Probably not a bank. Banks are getting rid of physical service, not expanding it.

They keep opening new branches around here. They are glorified ATM lobbies with minimal staff who will often direct you to use an ATM for anything that an ATM can do. But they do keep opening them. I sometimes wonder if it's just a complicated real estate investment play.

Fair enough! You might be right.

Re: Way ahead of its time: The Remote Lounge NYC (2013)

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Why no "tour" or replication? I understand that night entertainment is in part a novelty industry - but this took a lot of effort and was apparently hugely popular in NYC. Any insight as to why it didn't "tour"? or wasn't replicated? Did it, in fact, loose money overall and/or from the start? What's the deal with the (apparent) lack of replication of bar or nightclub themes?

This is an open question - not specific to Remote Lounge or Meow Wolf or Audium (San Francisco "sound experience") or the several other creative ideas mentioned in the thread. To be fair, one format that was endlessly replicated is the game arcade - without bar initially and with bar now.

Re: Way ahead of its time: The Remote Lounge NYC (2013)

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How did they find you an pitch the project to you? You mentioned that the project required some rather arcane programming knowledge. Could you elaborate on this? What areas of programming did you have to delve into that might be considered out of the ordinary? Was there any discussion about privacy when you were implementing it? Were there any features or functionalities that you wanted to implement but couldn't due…

How they found me: When I was 18, I was hired by The Disinformation Company (disinfo.com, the subculture search engine, which presaged our now post-truth conspiracy-theory laden world, though now sadly a shadow of its former self) as their Director of Technology. (I was precocious.) Disinfo had a cozy relationship with Razorfish, perhaps the biggest of the new breed of digital transformation consulting companies that…

I also remember writing Serial code in perl. Mine was pan-tilt-zoom control of cameras bridged across ISDN links. I feel your pain.

Re: Way ahead of its time: The Remote Lounge NYC (2013)

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How did they find you an pitch the project to you? You mentioned that the project required some rather arcane programming knowledge. Could you elaborate on this? What areas of programming did you have to delve into that might be considered out of the ordinary? Was there any discussion about privacy when you were implementing it? Were there any features or functionalities that you wanted to implement but couldn't due…

How they found me: When I was 18, I was hired by The Disinformation Company (disinfo.com, the subculture search engine, which presaged our now post-truth conspiracy-theory laden world, though now sadly a shadow of its former self) as their Director of Technology. (I was precocious.) Disinfo had a cozy relationship with Razorfish, perhaps the biggest of the new breed of digital transformation consulting companies that…

what was your experience of 9/11 2001 at disinfo ?

Re: Way ahead of its time: The Remote Lounge NYC (2013)

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Thanks so much for joining this conversation, I’m a big fan of your work! Years before I joined any social network, the Remote Lounge already had me thinking about online sharing, consent, and the future of the web. I’d really like To know how your experience working on The Remote Lounge affected the way you viewed the rise of Web 2.0 and the way we share our lives online.

This is a good question. Remote (and its ancestor We Live in Public) was way ahead of its time in regards to how public people were going to be about sharing their lives online. In many ways Remote was merely an instance of much larger trends in society that began decades (centuries?) before. Sharing your life with people you have never met; the culture (and cult) of celebrity; the long tail; constructing a persona f…

Thanks so much for your replies. I'm updating my blog (which is linked at the top of this HN post) with the information I'm learning here. How would you like your name credited there? I have you listed as "nhod" for now. https://docpop.org/2023/07/some-updates-on-the-remote-lounge...
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