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Apple’s strict on App Store rules but gives WeChat a free pass (2020)

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Re: Apple’s strict on App Store rules but gives WeChat a free pass (2020)

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Post by derefr »

game_the0ry wrote: post #25

When the west opened trade to China, policy experts assumed China would become more liberal like the west. Instead, the west is becoming more like China. [1, 2, 3] [1] https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/07/googles-web-integrit... [2] https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/07/ready-for-your-e... [3] (countless more examples, especially recently...)

China is becoming more liberal in the classical sense (more money accruing to regular "new money" entrepreneurs instead of to oligarchs); they just haven't hit the "borgeoisie-funded revolt against the aristocracy" phase of liberalization yet. Give them 50 years.

Re: Apple’s strict on App Store rules but gives WeChat a free pass (2020)

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Post by dvt »

game_the0ry wrote: post #25

When the west opened trade to China, policy experts assumed China would become more liberal like the west. Instead, the west is becoming more like China. [1, 2, 3] [1] https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/07/googles-web-integrit... [2] https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/07/ready-for-your-e... [3] (countless more examples, especially recently...)

Worldcoin is a terrible example imo, it's beyond DOA. Much like the rest of crypto, no one will seriously use it, unless we're talking speculation. I think that the riots in HK, the united front against Russia, etc. clearly show that the rest of the world believes free markets are the way to do things and it's just a matter of time (probably when Putin + Jinping bite the dust) until China/Russia also adopt more (classical) liberal stances.

If you're hinting at authoritarianism, Trump has been repudiated by most, and the Republican party is in shambles right now (which is how such a weak Democrat was able to win). I don't really see the doomer point of view.

Re: Apple’s strict on App Store rules but gives WeChat a free pass (2020)

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Post by notaustinpowers »

annexrichmond wrote: post #21

Just like how Apple killed Tumblr for porn problems but gave Twitter a pass

From what I understand is was more because Tumblr had a much younger user demographic with very ineffective content reporting tools. Allowed NSFW content without a desktop opt-in function. And also being bought by Yahoo who wanted to cash in on Tumblr advertising probably played a huge role in it too.

Twitter skews older, requires desktop opt-in for NSFW content, and (before Musk) had decent content reporting functions.

Re: Apple’s strict on App Store rules but gives WeChat a free pass (2020)

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Post by goodbyesf »

game_the0ry wrote: post #25

When the west opened trade to China, policy experts assumed China would become more liberal like the west. Instead, the west is becoming more like China. [1, 2, 3] [1] https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/07/googles-web-integrit... [2] https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/07/ready-for-your-e... [3] (countless more examples, especially recently...)

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Re: Apple’s strict on App Store rules but gives WeChat a free pass (2020)

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Post by dvt »

goodbyesf wrote: post #34
game_the0ry wrote: post #25

When the west opened trade to China, policy experts assumed China would become more liberal like the west. Instead, the west is becoming more like China. [1, 2, 3] [1] https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/07/googles-web-integrit... [2] https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/07/ready-for-your-e... [3] (countless more examples, especially recently...)

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> and trying to force every country around the world to adopt their 'values'.

Hot take: Yes. Because classical liberalism, the free market, and bottom-up government has done more for the advancement of humankind than sharia law, tyrants, oligarchies, theocracies, or dictatorships have ever done.

Let's stop pretending like all values have the same ethical valence.

Re: Apple’s strict on App Store rules but gives WeChat a free pass (2020)

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Post by justapassenger »

sn_master wrote: post #3

Interesting how they'll react to X. WeChat seems to be the closest thing to an "Everything App" that Elon wants to create.

X is vaporware. And even if they add those features, adoption is a slightly more complex story.

Also look at Facebook. You can talk with friends. Send money. Interact with businesses. Play games. Date. Sell and buy stuff. And many more.

But they don’t have state supported monopoly position, so it’s not an everything app.

Re: Apple’s strict on App Store rules but gives WeChat a free pass (2020)

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Post by goodbyesf »

dvt wrote: post #36
goodbyesf wrote: post #34

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> and trying to force every country around the world to adopt their 'values'. Hot take: Yes. Because classical liberalism, the free market, and bottom-up government has done more for the advancement of humankind than sharia law, tyrants, oligarchies, theocracies, or dictatorships have ever done. Let's stop pretending like all values have the same ethical valence.

> Hot take: Yes. Because classical liberalism, the free market, and bottom-up government has done more for the advancement of humankind than sharia law, tyrants, oligarchies, theocracies, or dictatorships have ever done.

That's not 'the west' and has never been. The US was born protectionist and pretty much stayed protectionist til today.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protectionism_in_the_United_St...

Of course today we wrap our protectionism with 'national security'. If a free market exists, then let me know because I've never come across one. All markets are protected and certainly not free. And if there is a bottom-up government, I've never heard of one in history. Can you show me an example of a bottom-up government? I'd love a good laugh.

> Let's stop pretending like all values have the same ethical valence.

And lets stop making up values to suit ones agenda.

Edit: Also, you might want to brush up on your history. 'sharia law, tyrants, oligarchies, theocracies, or dictatorships have ever done' have given us civilization and nearly all human progress since the dawn of time. Everything from agriculture, to writing, to the laws of physics were produced outside of 'classical liberalism'.

Re: Apple’s strict on App Store rules but gives WeChat a free pass (2020)

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Post by meowtimemania »

I don't totally understand the concept of having an everything app. Isn't the OS the "everything app"?

Do people like the wechat experience because you have one login and don't have to go through an onboarding process in every mini-app?

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