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> Vatican vault apparently has samples as well. Oh, the Vatican is involved! Of course they are, foolish me for not expecting it. No doubt the Knights Templar are somehow mixed up with this as well. It all seems very diabolical ; tell me more, Abulafia.
That's what the guy who just testified in front of Congress claims, not me.
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> They were all regular joes with uneventful military careers Grusch was a GS15 NGA officer that was read into over 2000 special access programs and prepared/delivered the presidential daily briefing in 2021. He’s quite literally one of the most credentialed intelligence officers in the US. Dave Fravor was second in command of the USS Nimitz and is recognized as one of the top fighter pilots to come out of Top Gun.
>Grusch was a GS15 NGA officer that was read into over 2000 special access programs and prepared/delivered the presidential daily briefing in 2021. He’s quite literally one of the most credentialed intelligence officers in the US. This is way more common than you think it is and again, not special. I prepped multiple PDBs from 2012-2015 while at DIA and then again while on the JS/J2 staff. Delivering a segment of the…
Having Top Secret SCI clearance does not give you immediate access to every SAP you request to be read into. Most people are not read into more that a dozen SAPs.
I’ll also point out that if Grusch was an unexceptional IC officer, the pentagon would easily be able to discredit him as such. To date, the pentagon has not attempted to say anything about Grusch’s credibility. Many reporters have stated on the record that Grusch is very well regarded as a high level intelligence official.
What evidence do you have that this guy was not an exceptional officer, other than maybe you yourself were not exceptional?
So just to give everyone here a bit of context. This hearing was not for the UFO Believers to be used as official disclosure. This was not to convince any skeptics out there this is real. This is a political tool for the congressional oversight committee (who themselves may not have any evidence) to put into record what they need to follow up on using their power of the purse and oversight rights. Is this an issue of…
The simplest explanation I've come up with is that the politicians like Marco Rubio and Matt Gaetz are servicing the UFO conspiracy segment of their demographics by supporting and encouraging David Grusch to be a UAP whistleblower. Grusch's extraordinary claims that the US has forced a global secrecy around the race to recover working and crashed non-human vehicles since 1930, that biological materials (aliens) and v…
This comment (inadvertently?) by mentioning those names gives off the impression that this is a partisan push. It is not. This is an explicitly bipartisan effort. Most recently: - Kirsten Gillibrand (Senator D-NY) most recently secured funding for UAP Office, and for years now has been writing legislation on the topic which has been passed: https://www.gillibrand.senate.gov/news/press/release/gillibr... - Chuck Schum…
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I can see where it might sound that way if you haven't watched the testimony. "I provided this classified information under oath to the inspector general" is not an avoidance tactic but a direction where to locate classified info. "I'll tell you later" on the surface might sound like an avoidance tactic, but when he was asked when he could provide it the answer was "immediately after today's session." In other words,…
Willing to get arrested would be a huge signal that he's an actual whistleblower and not full of shit! There's almost no chance he'd face any consequences given the topic and the amount of support he'd have the from the public, and even then, Daniel Hale's sentence for disclosing dozens of classified documents to reporters was ~3.5yrs in jail. The LARPers pretending like he'd be sent to gitmo are completely in lala l…
If I had hardcore proof of definite alien life on earth but by revealing it I'd spend time in prison, would I do it? Or would I be content to know that in the 4-billion year scope of life on Earth, people will probably eventually figure it out without me anyway, and that I could let go of my particular contribution to the arc of history for a simple, peaceful life with family? Maybe the latter...
The simplest explanation I've come up with is that the politicians like Marco Rubio and Matt Gaetz are servicing the UFO conspiracy segment of their demographics by supporting and encouraging David Grusch to be a UAP whistleblower. Grusch's extraordinary claims that the US has forced a global secrecy around the race to recover working and crashed non-human vehicles since 1930, that biological materials (aliens) and v…
This comment (inadvertently?) by mentioning those names gives off the impression that this is a partisan push. It is not. This is an explicitly bipartisan effort. Most recently: - Kirsten Gillibrand (Senator D-NY) most recently secured funding for UAP Office, and for years now has been writing legislation on the topic which has been passed: https://www.gillibrand.senate.gov/news/press/release/gillibr... - Chuck Schum…
UAP is simply unidentified aerial phenomena. It’s in the US’s interests to study such phenomena in its airspace.
For example those Chinese balloons, until they were recognized as balloons, also were UAPs.
Supporting the study of UAPs, including potential alien UAPs, is a far cry from claiming the U.S. govt has found wreckage of alien technology and is driving a worldwide conspiracy along with many other govts to keep this information hidden from people.
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This comment (inadvertently?) by mentioning those names gives off the impression that this is a partisan push. It is not. This is an explicitly bipartisan effort. Most recently: - Kirsten Gillibrand (Senator D-NY) most recently secured funding for UAP Office, and for years now has been writing legislation on the topic which has been passed: https://www.gillibrand.senate.gov/news/press/release/gillibr... - Chuck Schum…
The alien and ancient civilization stuff comes mostly from the gop. Rubio isn’t worried about ET - but bullshit like this is appealing to the nutjobs attracted to qanon, etc who vote. UAPs aren’t little green men. A drone with AI controls fits the quotes description.
- The (democrat) senate majority leader mentioned "non human intelligence"
- Rubio _is_ worried about "ET", per multiple interviews where this is presented as a likely explanation for the observed behavior
- No, an "AI Controlled drone" does not "fit the quotes description", not in the slightest. You are either grossly misinformed about the claims, the capabilities of modern aircraft (black or otherwise), or intentionally misleading others.
> “I was informed, in the course of my official duties, of a multi-decade UAP crash retrieval and reverse-engineering program, to which I was denied access,”
He has no first hand evidence. Basically somebody pranked him by telling him they had access to super secret programs that he would not be allowed to ever see and now he thinks the govt is running experiments on aliens.
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I agree this is unlikely to be true, but I keep in mind what we know now and what we knew 1 million years ago. The energy to run a PC would seem obscene to people even thousands of years ago (let alone what a PC is and what it can do). Pull someone from earlier in this timeline and see what they think of airplanes. 2.6 million years ago: Stone tools 1.7 million years ago: Controlled fire 5,000 - 3,000 BC: Writing 3,0…
A laptop consumes energy at the same order of magnitude as a human body—not an “obscene” amount. The physics of accelerating an organism to the relativistic speeds required to make space travel feasible are in a completely different realm.
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The DoD loves the myths. It's not about the existent of extraterrestrials. It's about a government so powerful that they would be able to cover it up and keep it secret. A government that can hide the existence of extraterrestrials, that can fake a moon landing, that can demolish skyscrapers in the middle of a city, is a powerful government and one that needs trillions of dollars a year. The amorphous "they" wants yo…
I just wrapped up Skunkworks and put the book down pretty impressed at what the DoD and Lockheed were able to keep secret. The author described Skunkworks' mission "again and again" as creating aircraft that were technologically unbelievable to America's enemies, so they would have no means to even reckon with a defense. The USSR spent hundreds of billions of rubles on an impenetrable anti-air defense network, Lockhe…
Rare triple negation. Also, I couldn't follow the last bit. Were you saying that basically what we imply as dazzling mind boggling technology is a top secret projects waiting to be unveiled / discovered?