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Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites

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Re: Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites

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Post by srvmshr »

BobbyJo wrote: post #61
srvmshr wrote: post #50

In theory, maybe possible. But honest-to-god critical thinking/sincere question: given that multiple countries have had satellites, deep space observation methods, giant telescopes etc how is that alien ingress have never been noticed? Aliens couldn't have known that US/UK were the preferred destinations - countries with large surface areas like Australia, Russia, Brazil and India don't report such activities in gene…

> how is that alien ingress have never been noticed? The US and the USSR had to collaborate on filtering out UAPs from radar early warning systems so we didn't nuke each other. Two of the people testifying in front of Congress are ex military pilots noting that they saw, and logged on radar, objects. The third has stated specifically that we do have satellite data and imagery displaying UAPs. > Why is that UFOs are c…

> All arguments of the form "where is the evidence" are moot at this point, as there is a mountain of evidence.

We haven't seen a single clear evidence yet. The objects captured from fighter jet IR cameras discussed in the past have also had explanation of lens flares and focal aberrations. True color image corresponding of the same event do not exist. No two accounts of unidentified activities are also same with inconsistencies one observes when people extend stories based on tenuous observation/experience

Re: Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites

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Post by BobbyJo »

yowzadave wrote: post #91
BobbyJo wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> how is that alien ingress have never been noticed? The US and the USSR had to collaborate on filtering out UAPs from radar early warning systems so we didn't nuke each other. Two of the people testifying in front of Congress are ex military pilots noting that they saw, and logged on radar, objects. The third has stated specifically that we do have satellite data and imagery displaying UAPs. > Why is that UFOs are c…

> All arguments of the form "where is the evidence" are moot at this point, as there is a mountain of evidence Sorry, I haven’t seen a single decent photo or video—everything is always blurry, distant, or ambiguous. And this is after a decade where virtually everyone is constantly carrying a camera on their person.

That argument would be "where is the indisputable evidence", and I would point out that no evidence is indisputable, especially when it concerns something as ridiculous as UFOs.

I'll point out 2 things:

1) The videos released to the NY times for their 2017 story are compressed and downscaled version of much higher quality videos the US gov has in it possession. That is indisputable fact as the US gov itself freely admits that.

2) You probably haven't looked. I've seen many convincing photos and videos, but unless their from an F-XX aircraft and the D.O.D tells me it is what it is, I ignore them because pictures and video have been easy to fake for as long as picture and video have existed. Here is one I like: https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/13dmaif/black_triangl... No way to know if it's legit or not, like I've said, but pretty cool either way.

Re: Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites

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Post by mcpackieh »

themagician wrote: post #65
doodlebugging wrote: post #58

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What is non-earth origin DNA that you mention in your reply to another post? How would you know it was not from earth? Is it as simple as there being no evidence of any contamination by hair colorants, straighteners, shampoos, or any products sold by Proctor and Gamble? I too would like to see actual links to any evidence or documentation of these events and products so I can see for myself. Bigfoot is almost a cotta…

I would start with the FBI files from the 70's and go from there. That's where it all begins. Apparently the hair had a structure that was not carbon based… the same kind of structure that Grusch talks about from the spaceship that crashed in Italy in 1933 which was covered up by the Five Eyes and the Vatican. Vatican vault apparently has samples as well.

> Vatican vault apparently has samples as well.

Oh, the Vatican is involved! Of course they are, foolish me for not expecting it. No doubt the Knights Templar are somehow mixed up with this as well. It all seems very diabolical; tell me more, Abulafia.

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Post by BobbyJo »

srvmshr wrote: post #101
BobbyJo wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> how is that alien ingress have never been noticed? The US and the USSR had to collaborate on filtering out UAPs from radar early warning systems so we didn't nuke each other. Two of the people testifying in front of Congress are ex military pilots noting that they saw, and logged on radar, objects. The third has stated specifically that we do have satellite data and imagery displaying UAPs. > Why is that UFOs are c…

> All arguments of the form "where is the evidence" are moot at this point, as there is a mountain of evidence. We haven't seen a single clear evidence yet. The objects captured from fighter jet IR cameras discussed in the past have also had explanation of lens flares and focal aberrations. True color image corresponding of the same event do not exist. No two accounts of unidentified activities are also same with inc…

> The objects captured from fighter jet IR cameras discussed in the past have also had explanation of lens flares and focal aberrations

One is a potential flare/focal aberration. The other two have no such explanation, and one of the three has radar tracking, followed by pilot interaction (David Fravor), then was videod by a second pilot on encounter (the video that was released.

Keep in mind also that all three are very low quality versions of the originals.

Re: Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites

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Post by jmclnx »

coding123 wrote: post #94
jmclnx wrote: post #75

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Climate Change, the heat wave in the southwest, malaria in Texas and FL, extremely high ocean temps around FL and the East Coast. Need any more ?

Those are all things everyone is paying attention to. A small 2 hour meeting on UFOs are not allowed? There were 138 congressional hearings on climate change in 2022 alone. https://www.eesi.org/articles/view/on-the-hill-in-2022-a-bre... https://www.eesi.org/files/EESI_s_2022_Climate,_Environmenta...

No more then a meeting on Big Foot :)

Seems Congress is doing all it can to ignore Issues that really need to be fixed.

>There were 138 congressional hearings on climate change in 2022 alone.

And what came of this ? Just denial, finger pointing and "fund raisers" to get more bribes from the fossil fuel industry :)

Re: Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites

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Post by mcpackieh »

whycome wrote: post #20
jmclnx wrote: post #3

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Glad to hear that, not like there is nothing else important happening in the US. What next, hearings on Big Foot :)

The hearing is utterly bizarre and surreal. Like theater but everyone is keeping a straight face. (also, 'Mrs. Luna' is asking questions and her character name seems too on-the-nose.) Former commander says he didn't believe in UFOs and defends himself with "I never watched history channel or anything like that" -- as though that's a source for UFOs rather than...history.

Check out the History Channel's schedule today. Not a cherry-picked day, just a normal schedule for them: https://www.history.com/schedule

That's four hours of aliens nonsense, four hours of drug themed history documentaries (probably the same target demographic as the aliens stuff.) An hour of christian prophesy and preaching, 12 hours of reality TV, and some infomercials to make up the difference.

Is it any wonder that an ostensibly serious man such as a military commander thinks that the History Channel is trash? I'd be concerned if he didn't.

Re: Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites

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Post by srvmshr »

BobbyJo wrote: post #105
srvmshr wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> All arguments of the form "where is the evidence" are moot at this point, as there is a mountain of evidence. We haven't seen a single clear evidence yet. The objects captured from fighter jet IR cameras discussed in the past have also had explanation of lens flares and focal aberrations. True color image corresponding of the same event do not exist. No two accounts of unidentified activities are also same with inc…

> The objects captured from fighter jet IR cameras discussed in the past have also had explanation of lens flares and focal aberrations One is a potential flare/focal aberration. The other two have no such explanation, and one of the three has radar tracking, followed by pilot interaction (David Fravor), then was videod by a second pilot on encounter (the video that was released. Keep in mind also that all three are…

So, what stops the US government from making this an elaborate psyops activity. Why should it be aliens _only_?

In an unstable world, where power projection is necessary & inevitable, it is a tactical move to neither confirm or deny existence of unparalleled technological edge. Create an elaborate story around unexplained IR camera observation. Potentially drop breadcrumbs & leave it ambiguous to project existence of superior otherworldly technology.

I believe most of us agree at this point, whatever proof publicly exists isn't incontrovertible - but ambiguous enough to be an umbrella for other top secret projects. Aliens aren't selectively choosing US - if you pause & think. And if that should not happen, evidence of similar standing should pop up elsewhere as well. The fact it isn't seen by India China Turkey Japan or any other sufficiently advanced military, is somehow not matching up with critical reasoning. (And many of these militaries actually do have strong public outreach just like US af-mil)

Leaving aside the military, clear photos have not showed up from the regular citizenry despite us having astrophotography capabilities in phones since sometime. The evidence or lack of it, isn't adding up

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