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Sinead O’Connor has died

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Re: Sinead O’Connor has died

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post #39

The first time I heard the song -- and saw the video -- to "Nothing Compares 2 U" and the screen is nothing but her face and at one point there are tears, and she blares that unreal voice, I think I stopped breathing. She will be missed.

Nothing Compares 2 U reliably induces frisson/goosebumps in me. Rare that a cover can match a Prince original: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nothing_Compares_2_U

honest question: is the "frisson/goosebumps" thing not called ASMR now?

Re: Sinead O’Connor has died

#82
post #66

on Twitter in November 2018. She wrote: "What I'm about to say is something so racist I never thought my soul could ever feel it. But truly I never wanna spend time with white people again (if that's what non-muslims are called). Not for one moment, for any reason. They are disgusting." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sin%C3%A9ad_O%27Connor#Tweets_...

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Re: Sinead O’Connor has died

#83
post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was flamebait, but please let's not take the bait because a religious flamewar is not what we need here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

That’s the reason I called it out as respectfully as I could. I was hoping OP would edit the comment given the rest of it is valid and gets the same point across.

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Re: Sinead O’Connor has died

#84

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I would even bet if it happened on an SNL today, it would have been met with applause.

That's just because the mores of society have changed. I can think of dozens of true statements that if spoken on a show like Saturday Night Live would led to a performer being banned.

Here's an SNL clip from way back where Chevy Chase and Richard Pryor trade racial slurs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuEBBwJdjhQ

I'm not a big fan of the whole, "you couldn't do that today", but you sure couldn't do that today. I think you weren't supposed to do it then either which made it subversive comedy.

Re: Sinead O’Connor has died

#85
post #30

I remember being outraged at her tearing up John Paul II’s picture. The media in the U.S. did a great job of hiding why she did it. I was not outraged at her when I found out her justified reasons for doing so. That was the first time I became consciously aware that news is a business and that that business thrives when it generates outrage. I no longer fall victim to this. She’s far more the saint than that bastard…

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Re: Sinead O’Connor has died

#86

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It always confused me how, at least in Boston, many many priests (but not the most egregious one or two) avoided prosecution for child abuse.

Same in Ireland, some high profile cases were prosecuted- but not the majority, and nothing happened the nuns - especially the evil that ran the mother and baby homes. 300+ babies discarded in a septic tank.

Do you have a link for the 300+ discarded babies? I'd like to read about that.

Re: Sinead O’Connor has died

#87
post #62

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Do you not think your comment would have been better without the final sentence?

It was flamebait, but please let's not take the bait because a religious flamewar is not what we need here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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Re: Sinead O’Connor has died

#88
post #64

She never deserved to be shunned.

It's hard not to laugh whenever people talk about "cancel culture" being a new phenomenon. The amount of hate she received for merely bringing up the horrible actions the catholic church committed was absurd.

Who is calling it a new phenomenon? The only thing new about it is the name.

Re: Sinead O’Connor has died

#90
post #22

She never deserved to be shunned.

Even if you strongly agree with her criticism of the pope, the way that she expressed that criticism -- by deceiving everyone on SNL to pull off her stunt -- certainly branded her as a loose cannon in the industry. Unpredictability might entertain audiences, but it's a huge liability from an entertainment industry perspective. And arguably, her antics greatly overshadowed the message she was trying to get across. How…

And she made exactly that point by saying that doing that didn't hurt her career, it hurt the careers of the people who wanted to make money from her.
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