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Sinead O’Connor has died

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Re: Sinead O’Connor has died

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basisword wrote: post #37
synetic wrote: post #30

I remember being outraged at her tearing up John Paul II’s picture. The media in the U.S. did a great job of hiding why she did it. I was not outraged at her when I found out her justified reasons for doing so. That was the first time I became consciously aware that news is a business and that that business thrives when it generates outrage. I no longer fall victim to this. She’s far more the saint than that bastard…

Do you not think your comment would have been better without the final sentence?

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Re: Sinead O’Connor has died

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Post by BugsJustFindMe »

basisword wrote: post #37
synetic wrote: post #30

I remember being outraged at her tearing up John Paul II’s picture. The media in the U.S. did a great job of hiding why she did it. I was not outraged at her when I found out her justified reasons for doing so. That was the first time I became consciously aware that news is a business and that that business thrives when it generates outrage. I no longer fall victim to this. She’s far more the saint than that bastard…

Do you not think your comment would have been better without the final sentence?

I don't. Do you? If so, why?

Re: Sinead O’Connor has died

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Post by GoofballJones »

amanaplanacanal wrote: post #23
robertheadley wrote: post #5

She never deserved to be shunned.

Looking back 30 years later, it’s really hard to understand. If it was today, it would barely be a blip.

I would even bet if it happened on an SNL today, it would have been met with applause.

Re: Sinead O’Connor has died

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Post by prmoustache »

basisword wrote: post #37
synetic wrote: post #30

I remember being outraged at her tearing up John Paul II’s picture. The media in the U.S. did a great job of hiding why she did it. I was not outraged at her when I found out her justified reasons for doing so. That was the first time I became consciously aware that news is a business and that that business thrives when it generates outrage. I no longer fall victim to this. She’s far more the saint than that bastard…

Do you not think your comment would have been better without the final sentence?

yeah think of those poor bastards who now are associated to the former chef of a child abuse cartel.

Re: Sinead O’Connor has died

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Post by mynameishere »

amanaplanacanal wrote: post #23
robertheadley wrote: post #5

She never deserved to be shunned.

Looking back 30 years later, it’s really hard to understand. If it was today, it would barely be a blip.

It's not hard to understand. I remember when it happened, and I remember thinking "publicity stunt". I wouldn't hold that against her--that's show business. Sometimes you eat the nipple and sometimes the nipple eats you.

Re: Sinead O’Connor has died

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Post by osullish »

TedDoesntTalk wrote: post #42
osullish wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think his last sentence doesn't go far enough - I'm not sure how far I'd need to go to describe someone who covered up systemic child abuse on a global scale

It always confused me how, at least in Boston, many many priests (but not the most egregious one or two) avoided prosecution for child abuse.

Same in Ireland, some high profile cases were prosecuted- but not the majority, and nothing happened the nuns - especially the evil that ran the mother and baby homes. 300+ babies discarded in a septic tank.

Re: Sinead O’Connor has died

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Post by wonderwonder »

LesZedCB wrote: post #10
AlecSchueler wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

...Where does it go?

> I’ve decided to follow my son. There is no point living without him. Everything I touch, I ruin. I only stayed for him. And now he’s gone,” she wrote on an unverified Twitter account linked to her official account. https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/14/entertainment/sinead-oconnor-... heart breaking to hear :(

Can't really think of anything worse than losing a kid to suicide. The guilt, warranted or not must be crushing.

Re: Sinead O’Connor has died

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Post by esafak »

david927 wrote: post #14

The first time I heard the song -- and saw the video -- to "Nothing Compares 2 U" and the screen is nothing but her face and at one point there are tears, and she blares that unreal voice, I think I stopped breathing. She will be missed.

She had the same intent look in this recording of Molly Malone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ouqhCtIh2g

Re: Sinead O’Connor has died

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Post by Gabriel_Martin »

acheron wrote: post #29
TehCorwiz wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A protest that doesn’t make anyone uncomfortable has no teeth.

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Your HN account is probably older than many of those kids the church covered up the abuse of. But sure, she's the asshole for making you think about it.

Re: Sinead O’Connor has died

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Post by CWuestefeld »

acheron wrote: post #29
TehCorwiz wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A protest that doesn’t make anyone uncomfortable has no teeth.

[flagged]

I don't think that's fair.

Nobody claimed the converse, and that's what would be a more apt target of your comment.

And I think that there's a lot of space between "making someone uncomfortable" versus being an asshole.

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