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Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites

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Re: Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites

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Post by yowzadave »

BobbyJo wrote: post #61
srvmshr wrote: post #50

In theory, maybe possible. But honest-to-god critical thinking/sincere question: given that multiple countries have had satellites, deep space observation methods, giant telescopes etc how is that alien ingress have never been noticed? Aliens couldn't have known that US/UK were the preferred destinations - countries with large surface areas like Australia, Russia, Brazil and India don't report such activities in gene…

> how is that alien ingress have never been noticed? The US and the USSR had to collaborate on filtering out UAPs from radar early warning systems so we didn't nuke each other. Two of the people testifying in front of Congress are ex military pilots noting that they saw, and logged on radar, objects. The third has stated specifically that we do have satellite data and imagery displaying UAPs. > Why is that UFOs are c…

> All arguments of the form "where is the evidence" are moot at this point, as there is a mountain of evidence

Sorry, I haven’t seen a single decent photo or video—everything is always blurry, distant, or ambiguous. And this is after a decade where virtually everyone is constantly carrying a camera on their person.

Re: Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites

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Post by BobbyJo »

Eji1700 wrote: post #72
BobbyJo wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> how is that alien ingress have never been noticed? The US and the USSR had to collaborate on filtering out UAPs from radar early warning systems so we didn't nuke each other. Two of the people testifying in front of Congress are ex military pilots noting that they saw, and logged on radar, objects. The third has stated specifically that we do have satellite data and imagery displaying UAPs. > Why is that UFOs are c…

> The US and the USSR had to collaborate on filtering out UAPs from radar early warning systems so we didn't nuke each other. And as we know they're the only countries with radar and observation abilities. > Two of the people testifying in front of Congress are ex military pilots noting that they saw, and logged on radar, objects. > The third has stated specifically that we do have satellite data and imagery displayi…

> And as we know they're the only countries with radar and observation abilities.

They're not? Are you implying that by pointing out one event I'm explicitly excluding the possibility of others? Not sure that follows.

> This is nothing new. There's plenty of "stuff" that can get tagged as a UAP/UFO/Whatever. None of it has turned out to be aliens.

Depends on who you ask, which was kin of my entire point. There is tons of evidence, what missing is provenance.

> We've also got reports of dragons, krakens, bigfoot, the lochness, ghosts, psychic powers, and magic. Hell there's a couple of rather popular books talking about all sorts of phenomena like talking burning bushes, parting the sea, and walking on water.

Again, the was my point. I wasn't saying "here is all the 100% proven evidence". I was saying "there is no evidence" is an inaccurate statement.

> No, it just isn't. HARD EVIDENCE does not exist

There is plenty of material, with plenty of seals of approval, just not from the U.S. gov.

Re: Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites

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Post by lusus_naturae »

It is irresponsible to simply call this "hiding". It is more reasonable to assume this is psyops by an adversary, and as such releasing information without doing due diligence is just causing harm.

Overall, if such events are true I wonder what effect this will have on politics driven by religion-based agendas (many who drive such agenda are not even pious or adherents in any form of the word). Maybe this is finally bring an end to religion-driven politics.

Re: Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites

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Post by coding123 »

jmclnx wrote: post #75
coding123 wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is happening? Seriously we already know about Hunter Biden. What is happening today that wasn't happening yesterday that you think this is actually an attention distraction?

Climate Change, the heat wave in the southwest, malaria in Texas and FL, extremely high ocean temps around FL and the East Coast. Need any more ?

Those are all things everyone is paying attention to. A small 2 hour meeting on UFOs are not allowed?

There were 138 congressional hearings on climate change in 2022 alone.

https://www.eesi.org/articles/view/on-the-hill-in-2022-a-bre...

https://www.eesi.org/files/EESI_s_2022_Climate,_Environmenta...

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Post by enterprise_cog »

If you need any further proof this country has a hard time innovating anymore, this UFO story push that coincides with the start of another Cold War is a great example.

I remember listening to Art Bell as a kid, fascinated with the stories of aliens, MIB, military coverups, etc… with former military men telling a lot of the stories.

Then I read Carl Sagan and realized how silly it all was. Then I learned how the government lies about so much. How they use current and former military and intelligence to further those lies.

Shame so many still buy into this at all. Highly suggest reading a demon haunted world if you haven’t. It makes these claims pure comedy.

Re: Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites

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Post by AndrewKemendo »

coding123 wrote: post #62
AndrewKemendo wrote: post #11

For additional context, the 14N (Air Force Intelligence officers) community broadly does not support this person or his claims. Take that for what it's worth

It's not worth much because if there is a community that doesn't know about it, then of course they won't support it. If they do know about it, and haven't already disclosed it, then of course they won't support it. So basically "take that for what it's worth" in both cases is 0.

I happen to know that there’s a teapot on the other side of the moon. You just can’t see it.

Now it’s on you to disprove my teapot theory.

In case you didn't pick it up, the evidentiary proof is on the claimant not the interrogator.

Re: Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites

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Post by pshirshov »

yowzadave wrote: post #87
mritchie712 wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree this is unlikely to be true, but I keep in mind what we know now and what we knew 1 million years ago. The energy to run a PC would seem obscene to people even thousands of years ago (let alone what a PC is and what it can do). Pull someone from earlier in this timeline and see what they think of airplanes. 2.6 million years ago: Stone tools 1.7 million years ago: Controlled fire 5,000 - 3,000 BC: Writing 3,0…

A laptop consumes energy at the same order of magnitude as a human body—not an “obscene” amount. The physics of accelerating an organism to the relativistic speeds required to make space travel feasible are in a completely different realm.

Based on what we know it's highly unlikely/impossible but what if you don't have to accelerate?..

Re: Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites

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Post by srvmshr »

Ancapistani wrote: post #70
srvmshr wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I understand. But out of curiosity: why is there no material evidence across the different civilizations. Surely all of humanity couldn't be duping themselves and only US is speaking up in 21st century. I am _not_ a non-believer. It is just the lack of scientific historicity and diversity of evidence that bothers me. I cannot reconcile that mountain of contradiction with the current testimony. It is one Congressional…

> public narrative of accounts from pre-modern times There are. For example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1561_celestial_phenomenon_over... Now, none of them are as clear and objective as "A being that was obvious not human spoke to me and told me about themselves. They are ..." - but that doesn't mean we don't have a ton of incidents reported over the centuries.

The celestial phenomenon over Nuremberg & Basel have been time & again discussed to be purported works of fiction. (This is also from a recent cursory literature review on the topic in JSTOR).

Summarily, many supernatural themed events were written by fantasy writers of those age to peddle to crowds outside their region. Those people have died, and the enigma forgotten - but these writings have found their way as proto-evidence of unusual activity from medieval times & now being used to support arguments.

Re: Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites

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Post by jakeinspace »

lockhouse wrote: post #45
exitb wrote: post #18

We wouldn't happen to be invading Iran today, would we?

My thoughts exactly, what are they attempting to distract us from. I think it’s all the Hunter Biden stuff: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/hunter-b...

Why would a bunch of republicans want to distract from something they’ve been desperately trying to use as an attack on Biden for years? This is a bipartisan hearing.

Re: Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites

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Post by bell-cot »

"The American public has a right to learn about..."

Reaction I: The concept/prospect of space aliens really mashes a lot of people's emotional buttons. And "having a right to learn about" is how such strong emotions are usually articulated.

Reaction II: So long as $Potential_Enemy_Nation is a bit unsure about whether you are really lying, about having a bunch of from-1000-years-in-the-future technology hidden away, that you could suddenly start using (against them) if sufficiently motivated...that's pretty cheap deterrence, eh?

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