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Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites

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Re: Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites

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Post by BobbyJo »

srvmshr wrote: post #50

In theory, maybe possible. But honest-to-god critical thinking/sincere question: given that multiple countries have had satellites, deep space observation methods, giant telescopes etc how is that alien ingress have never been noticed? Aliens couldn't have known that US/UK were the preferred destinations - countries with large surface areas like Australia, Russia, Brazil and India don't report such activities in gene…

> how is that alien ingress have never been noticed?

The US and the USSR had to collaborate on filtering out UAPs from radar early warning systems so we didn't nuke each other.

Two of the people testifying in front of Congress are ex military pilots noting that they saw, and logged on radar, objects.

The third has stated specifically that we do have satellite data and imagery displaying UAPs.

> Why is that UFOs are coming up as pop culture topic just now in last few decade

UFO reports from the middle ages exist, both in paintings and in writings. Ship captains have reports in their logs from the 16 and 1700s. Reports from within the U.S. in the 1800s exist.

I haven't provided references here in the interest of my time, but all of what I stated here is readily verifiable with a few internet searches.

All arguments of the form "where is the evidence" are moot at this point, as there is a mountain of evidence. The issue today is provenance. With claims so large, even HD video of an object and creatures in real time wouldn't be enough. The only thing that would convince people is the word of the US (or some other major country) government itself providing evidence, which it has done in small doses, and is the only reason this hearing is happening.

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Post by coding123 »

AndrewKemendo wrote: post #11

For additional context, the 14N (Air Force Intelligence officers) community broadly does not support this person or his claims. Take that for what it's worth

It's not worth much because if there is a community that doesn't know about it, then of course they won't support it. If they do know about it, and haven't already disclosed it, then of course they won't support it.

So basically "take that for what it's worth" in both cases is 0.

Re: Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites

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Post by srvmshr »

coding123 wrote: post #57
srvmshr wrote: post #50

In theory, maybe possible. But honest-to-god critical thinking/sincere question: given that multiple countries have had satellites, deep space observation methods, giant telescopes etc how is that alien ingress have never been noticed? Aliens couldn't have known that US/UK were the preferred destinations - countries with large surface areas like Australia, Russia, Brazil and India don't report such activities in gene…

The human ability to deny to others and oneself is stronger than we think. There's a vast set of people that saw them in Phoenix, astronauts, there's evidence in many places that we tend to ignore. I've met Travis Walton. He is one of the most genuine people I have ever met. We're just not listening (some people are but most are not capable of hearing it).

I understand. But out of curiosity: why is there no material evidence across the different civilizations. Surely all of humanity couldn't be duping themselves and only US is speaking up in 21st century.

I am _not_ a non-believer. It is just the lack of scientific historicity and diversity of evidence that bothers me. I cannot reconcile that mountain of contradiction with the current testimony. It is one Congressional account of definitive existence, versus the absence of conclusive proof or material evidence anywhere else.

Re: Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites

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Post by instagraham »

From the BBC story:

Rep Nancy Mace, a North Carolina Republican, tried to get Grusch to elaborate on what he knew about non-terrestrial bodies.

She asks him if "biologics" were recovered from any crashed crafts.

Referencing his previous media interviews, Grusch responds that "biologics came with some of these recoveries".

Were they human or non-human? Mace asks.

"Non-human, and that was the assessment of people with direct knowledge on the programme I talked to," Grusch responds.ike this."

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Post by themagician »

doodlebugging wrote: post #58
themagician wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not really. There is good evidence that sightings of Big Foot are actually linked to the same department responsible for dealing with extraterrestrials on earth.

What is non-earth origin DNA that you mention in your reply to another post? How would you know it was not from earth? Is it as simple as there being no evidence of any contamination by hair colorants, straighteners, shampoos, or any products sold by Proctor and Gamble? I too would like to see actual links to any evidence or documentation of these events and products so I can see for myself. Bigfoot is almost a cotta…

I would start with the FBI files from the 70's and go from there. That's where it all begins. Apparently the hair had a structure that was not carbon based… the same kind of structure that Grusch talks about from the spaceship that crashed in Italy in 1933 which was covered up by the Five Eyes and the Vatican. Vatican vault apparently has samples as well.

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Post by Eji1700 »

This whole thing is just making me have less and less faith in society.

There's no fucking way this is remotely true, but everywhere I look, not matter the community, there's so much "what if" nonsense that reeks of the same ignorance those people screamed about when that was the argument for COVID conspiracies.

The energy required to travel through space is obscene.

The difficulty of traveling through space is obscene.

Finding ANYTHING in space is obscene.

IF somehow all of this was done, then the idea it's been kept a secret when there's soooo many ways of tracking and viewing these things is stupid (especially when you consider how much energy would need to be expended).

This is also assuming that for some reason they want to remain secret?

The whole thing is just so on it's face bs, but people so desperately want to believe they'll ignore all evidence. I can understand that, but I HATE the hypocrisy on display from those who are routinely critical of others for having such gaps in their logic.

Re: Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites

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Post by TigeriusKirk »

instagraham wrote: post #64

From the BBC story: Rep Nancy Mace, a North Carolina Republican, tried to get Grusch to elaborate on what he knew about non-terrestrial bodies. She asks him if "biologics" were recovered from any crashed crafts. Referencing his previous media interviews, Grusch responds that "biologics came with some of these recoveries". Were they human or non-human? Mace asks. "Non-human, and that was the assessment of people with…

If this is true (huge gigantic "if"), then all information on this topic should be immediately declassified. It is unacceptable to keep the biggest discovery in the history of the human race from the public. There is no justification for it.

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Post by zmgsabst »

TigeriusKirk wrote: post #68
instagraham wrote: post #64

From the BBC story: Rep Nancy Mace, a North Carolina Republican, tried to get Grusch to elaborate on what he knew about non-terrestrial bodies. She asks him if "biologics" were recovered from any crashed crafts. Referencing his previous media interviews, Grusch responds that "biologics came with some of these recoveries". Were they human or non-human? Mace asks. "Non-human, and that was the assessment of people with…

If this is true (huge gigantic "if"), then all information on this topic should be immediately declassified. It is unacceptable to keep the biggest discovery in the history of the human race from the public. There is no justification for it.

Bird poop on a crashed drone would also be “non-human biologics” on a “recovered crash”.

Re: Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites

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Post by Ancapistani »

srvmshr wrote: post #63
coding123 wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The human ability to deny to others and oneself is stronger than we think. There's a vast set of people that saw them in Phoenix, astronauts, there's evidence in many places that we tend to ignore. I've met Travis Walton. He is one of the most genuine people I have ever met. We're just not listening (some people are but most are not capable of hearing it).

I understand. But out of curiosity: why is there no material evidence across the different civilizations. Surely all of humanity couldn't be duping themselves and only US is speaking up in 21st century. I am _not_ a non-believer. It is just the lack of scientific historicity and diversity of evidence that bothers me. I cannot reconcile that mountain of contradiction with the current testimony. It is one Congressional…

> public narrative of accounts from pre-modern times

There are.

For example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1561_celestial_phenomenon_over...

Now, none of them are as clear and objective as "A being that was obvious not human spoke to me and told me about themselves. They are ..." - but that doesn't mean we don't have a ton of incidents reported over the centuries.

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