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Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites

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Post by AndrewKemendo »

caesil wrote: post #16
AndrewKemendo wrote: post #11

For additional context, the 14N (Air Force Intelligence officers) community broadly does not support this person or his claims. Take that for what it's worth

Can you explain why?

Well, for one, he seems to be pretty liberal with the truth in a way that many spooks are good at. For example he claims:

> at the GS-15 civilian level, which is the military equivalent of a full-bird colonel

I was previously both a Major and later NH-IV (which in my case had equivalency with GS-15-10)and the only people making this claim would be ones that want to inflate their own importance.

They are completely different legally and fall under different legal codes - namely the GS system is not subject to UCMJ nor can they make certain legal decisions that an O6 can make and has a completely different promotion and evaluation.

He wants to portray himself as a battle hardened commander when he’s just another run of the mill PowerPoint slinger.

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Post by DoreenMichele »

The whistleblower former intelligence official David Grusch says he faced “very brutal and very unfortunate” retaliation after he went public with his allegations.

Intelligence personnel swear to keep their mouths shut. He has no real evidence and no real compelling reason that I'm seeing for coming forward.

What did he expect?

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Post by wil421 »

caesil wrote: post #16
AndrewKemendo wrote: post #11

For additional context, the 14N (Air Force Intelligence officers) community broadly does not support this person or his claims. Take that for what it's worth

Can you explain why?

Can’t say for that for the intelligence community, but UFO people on podcasts claim his claims are being fed to him and are likely psyops misdirections.

He also has no direct knowledge it’s all stuff he heard from other people in the government.

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Post by AndrewKemendo »

yuvadam wrote: post #26
AndrewKemendo wrote: post #11

For additional context, the 14N (Air Force Intelligence officers) community broadly does not support this person or his claims. Take that for what it's worth

Why would they, if they have no knowledge of material he's seen and is testifying about?

Because he hasn’t demonstrated anything that indicates that he’s not just purely fabricating all of this for publicity

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Post by lockhouse »

exitb wrote: post #18

We wouldn't happen to be invading Iran today, would we?

My thoughts exactly, what are they attempting to distract us from.

I think it’s all the Hunter Biden stuff:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/hunter-b...

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Post by yuvadam »

AndrewKemendo wrote: post #44
yuvadam wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would they, if they have no knowledge of material he's seen and is testifying about?

Because he hasn’t demonstrated anything that indicates that he’s not just purely fabricating all of this for publicity

How would he go about that in an unclassified setting?

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Post by bostonsre »

mattmaroon wrote: post #33
mcpackieh wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Presuming there was actually some aliens/UFOs to know about in the first place (I'm pretty confident there aren't any actual alien UFOs, but that doesn't mean there aren't secret programs dedicated to UFOs), it is likely that most of congress wouldn't know about it and only a few congressmen on the right committees would know. Not every member of congress is informed of all the secrets the American government has. Pa…

I have always felt that given how far away they must be, and the challenge involved in crossing that space, the most ridiculous belief is that some extra-terrestrial intelligent life is simultaneously able to build ships that get here (meaning they're far more technologically advanced than us) and yet not able to hide them from us. Or that they get here and have a breakdown right over New Mexico. Or their drone could…

Would you self destruct your broken down car so that ants couldn't get a hold of the technology? Would you care if the ants you are studying notice you?

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Post by vsareto »

mattmaroon wrote: post #33
mcpackieh wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Presuming there was actually some aliens/UFOs to know about in the first place (I'm pretty confident there aren't any actual alien UFOs, but that doesn't mean there aren't secret programs dedicated to UFOs), it is likely that most of congress wouldn't know about it and only a few congressmen on the right committees would know. Not every member of congress is informed of all the secrets the American government has. Pa…

I have always felt that given how far away they must be, and the challenge involved in crossing that space, the most ridiculous belief is that some extra-terrestrial intelligent life is simultaneously able to build ships that get here (meaning they're far more technologically advanced than us) and yet not able to hide them from us. Or that they get here and have a breakdown right over New Mexico. Or their drone could…

I really doubt we've been visited by aliens but one could have stolen a ship and took a ride here not knowing how to fully operate it. It's entirely possible their government is suppressing the existence of aliens and we've been visited by their whistleblowers/journalists.

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Post by srvmshr »

In theory, maybe possible. But honest-to-god critical thinking/sincere question: given that multiple countries have had satellites, deep space observation methods, giant telescopes etc how is that alien ingress have never been noticed? Aliens couldn't have known that US/UK were the preferred destinations - countries with large surface areas like Australia, Russia, Brazil and India don't report such activities in general.

Why is that UFOs are coming up as pop culture topic just now in last few decades - and no concerted & corroborative evidence exists from medieval or prehistoric times (apart from some cave paintings where imaginations have been at play of superior beings).

Human race always had a creative tone to recording our history - we borrow philosophy, allude to existence of supernatural, and of God almighty. When it is about non-planetary life, definitive evidence _must_ exist all over the planet that we were visited - not just one country. Or am I being too cynical?

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