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As Actors Strike for AI Protections, Netflix Lists $900k AI Job

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Re: As Actors Strike for AI Protections, Netflix Lists $900k AI Job

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Post by thepasswordis »

covercash wrote: post #37
Imnimo wrote: post #5

>So $900k/yr per soldier in their godless AI army when that amount of earnings could qualify thirty-five actors and their families for SAG-AFTRA health insurance is just ghoulish, How many actors could Adam Sandler's $250M Netflix deal pay for?

That’s a deal with him and his production company, Happy Madison. He’s not personally pocketing $250 million, and a portion of that will go toward paying actors, crew, and other staff. If any of the internet anecdotes are to be believed, he takes care of his employees.

How much money should Adam Sandler make?

Re: As Actors Strike for AI Protections, Netflix Lists $900k AI Job

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Post by esotericimpl »

capableweb wrote: post #26
Imnimo wrote: post #5

>So $900k/yr per soldier in their godless AI army when that amount of earnings could qualify thirty-five actors and their families for SAG-AFTRA health insurance is just ghoulish, How many actors could Adam Sandler's $250M Netflix deal pay for?

Considering how many people would do shows/movies for free in the start of their career, answer would be ∞

There's zero people who can do netflix shows or movies for free because of the Screen Actors Guild.

These aren't independent college movies or something you're making for your youtube channel.

WTF is this comment.

Re: As Actors Strike for AI Protections, Netflix Lists $900k AI Job

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Post by bertil »

AndrewKemendo wrote: post #18
Imnimo wrote: post #5

>So $900k/yr per soldier in their godless AI army when that amount of earnings could qualify thirty-five actors and their families for SAG-AFTRA health insurance is just ghoulish, How many actors could Adam Sandler's $250M Netflix deal pay for?

How long is a piece of string?

There are union minimum rates [1] for actors, and a lot of people are paid as much, so, in practice, this is not an absurdly unspecified question but a genuinely easy one to answer: $250M / $1,082 = 231,053 days of work.

[1] https://www.wrapbook.com/blog/essential-guide-sag-rates#:~:t....

Re: As Actors Strike for AI Protections, Netflix Lists $900k AI Job

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Post by vore »

OO000oo wrote: post #6

I don't see what the problem is. This is perfectly legal. Private companies can do whatever they want with their own money.

There are also countries where beating your wife is perfectly legal. I don’t think you should use legality to determine if something is a problem or not.

Re: As Actors Strike for AI Protections, Netflix Lists $900k AI Job

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Post by esotericimpl »

thepasswordis wrote: post #41
covercash wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s a deal with him and his production company, Happy Madison. He’s not personally pocketing $250 million, and a portion of that will go toward paying actors, crew, and other staff. If any of the internet anecdotes are to be believed, he takes care of his employees.

How much money should Adam Sandler make?

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Re: As Actors Strike for AI Protections, Netflix Lists $900k AI Job

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Post by MisterBastahrd »

lxe wrote: post #20

The headline is drawing all sorts of misleading conclusions. There's a PM posting for an ML team with a $300-900k market range. Nothing to do with actors striking.

One of the specific things that they're striking against is that the movie companies wanted to be able to get the right to use background actors' likenesses in perpetuity to be recast as AI characters.

Re: As Actors Strike for AI Protections, Netflix Lists $900k AI Job

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Post by creeble »

sb8244 wrote: post #16
ke88y wrote: post #7

Am I the only one who genuinely doesn't "get" the AI component of the actor strike? I'm generally in solidarity with labor, but clauses in a labor contract limiting the use of AI in an industry seems kind of insane and unsustainable. Is there any historical analog in the US labor movement?

Imagine that your likeness as an extra is sold for $250, used in future films via AI deep fake, and you never get paid again. That's my understanding of why they're striking.

I don’t think they need your likeness for an extra. They can just create an army of AI extras and use them without paying for anyone’s likeness.

That’s my understanding of the strike anyway.

Re: As Actors Strike for AI Protections, Netflix Lists $900k AI Job

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Post by CableNinja »

AndrewKemendo wrote: post #21

The movie Simone [2002] follows a fading director creating a virtual actress to star in his films and the attempts he makes to keep her non-presence a secret as she becomes more famous. Life imitates art imitates life... [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simone_(2002_film)

I also immediately thought of this movie when hearing all of this hubub, we live in the weirdest timeline. How do we get back out of this line

Re: As Actors Strike for AI Protections, Netflix Lists $900k AI Job

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Post by bertil »

candiddevmike wrote: post #24

Jokes on Netflix, if AI can generate shows why pay for Netflix when I'll eventually have a personal AI (provided by an open source project, because anything novel in this space is leaky) that generates an entertainment bubble for me?

For the same reason that you still pay for games, even when they run on your machine? There’s a lot that Netflix can sell, including proprietary code, creatively unique prompts, etc.

Re: As Actors Strike for AI Protections, Netflix Lists $900k AI Job

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Post by anigbrowl »

OO000oo wrote: post #6

I don't see what the problem is. This is perfectly legal. Private companies can do whatever they want with their own money.

Nobody disputed its legality. Actors are using their existing bargaining power to negotiate for a contractual commitment.
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