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As Actors Strike for AI Protections, Netflix Lists $900k AI Job

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Re: As Actors Strike for AI Protections, Netflix Lists $900k AI Job

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Post by matwood »

sb8244 wrote: post #16
ke88y wrote: post #7

Am I the only one who genuinely doesn't "get" the AI component of the actor strike? I'm generally in solidarity with labor, but clauses in a labor contract limiting the use of AI in an industry seems kind of insane and unsustainable. Is there any historical analog in the US labor movement?

Imagine that your likeness as an extra is sold for $250, used in future films via AI deep fake, and you never get paid again. That's my understanding of why they're striking.

That's a bit of it. The more immediate term is a studio who can feed in all the scripts they have ever received then have a single writer use an LLM and make more scripts. Eventually they wouldn't need a writer, just a person good at prompts.

The problem is the writers have zero leverage. We just came out of a time of huge overspending on content where we all have thousands of hours we still haven't watched. Adding AI is on the rise and the writers may never get back what they had pre-strike. Similar thing happened last time which led to the rise in reality TV.

Re: As Actors Strike for AI Protections, Netflix Lists $900k AI Job

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Post by bertil »

lxe wrote: post #20

The headline is drawing all sorts of misleading conclusions. There's a PM posting for an ML team with a $300-900k market range. Nothing to do with actors striking.

One of the reasons actors are striking is because they are worried that their work will be replaced with deep-fakes, but also because they have already been offered that kind of contract at a rate they deem far too low (one day of work).

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Post by spaceman_2020 »

sb8244 wrote: post #16
ke88y wrote: post #7

Am I the only one who genuinely doesn't "get" the AI component of the actor strike? I'm generally in solidarity with labor, but clauses in a labor contract limiting the use of AI in an industry seems kind of insane and unsustainable. Is there any historical analog in the US labor movement?

Imagine that your likeness as an extra is sold for $250, used in future films via AI deep fake, and you never get paid again. That's my understanding of why they're striking.

People here are being complacent.

I’m willing to bet all my money that a savvy startup will log all your keystrokes and train an AI model on all the code you’ve ever written - for your employer or otherwise - and create an AI agent that can code just like you. You will no longer be needed.

And it will be far easier to implement than an AI actor.

All of it will happen within 10 years. Which, as far as job security goes, isn’t a whole bunch of time.

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Post by OJFord »

sb8244 wrote: post #16
ke88y wrote: post #7

Am I the only one who genuinely doesn't "get" the AI component of the actor strike? I'm generally in solidarity with labor, but clauses in a labor contract limiting the use of AI in an industry seems kind of insane and unsustainable. Is there any historical analog in the US labor movement?

Imagine that your likeness as an extra is sold for $250, used in future films via AI deep fake, and you never get paid again. That's my understanding of why they're striking.

But who has the budget for particularly recognisable extras anyway?

It's not like famous enough to be mass-recognisable actors are getting paid to be extras anyway, and why would you bother to copy someone unknown's likeness when you can just have your AI generate something new anyway? And I'm not convinced you'd want recognisable extras, it'd be distracting wouldn't it? And detract from who your actual stars are when they don't have more of a part?

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Post by tw04 »

mercurialsolo wrote: post #9

If you can create a likeness of Tom Hanks which doesn't need to be Tom Hanks exactly, who owns the copyright - the digital creator or Tom Hanks. Actors protesting AI protections remind me of factory workers protesting against automation setting in.

>Actors protesting AI protections remind me of factory workers protesting against automation setting in.

And in hindsight: rightly so. Automation and outsourcing gutted the middle class in the US to the benefit of a handful of folks that didn't need anymore money. What's the end-game of automating every human job away if the spoils of that automation aren't shared widely?

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Post by covercash »

Imnimo wrote: post #5

>So $900k/yr per soldier in their godless AI army when that amount of earnings could qualify thirty-five actors and their families for SAG-AFTRA health insurance is just ghoulish, How many actors could Adam Sandler's $250M Netflix deal pay for?

That’s a deal with him and his production company, Happy Madison. He’s not personally pocketing $250 million, and a portion of that will go toward paying actors, crew, and other staff. If any of the internet anecdotes are to be believed, he takes care of his employees.

Re: As Actors Strike for AI Protections, Netflix Lists $900k AI Job

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Post by brachika »

I feel like the sensational title and the content of the article are completely unrelated. Also the author is somewhat toxic.

On the other hand, I was always interested in AI, but this listing really scratched my curiosity. What would be the proper roadmap for someone who wants to learn AI?

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Post by pipes »

Imnimo wrote: post #5

>So $900k/yr per soldier in their godless AI army when that amount of earnings could qualify thirty-five actors and their families for SAG-AFTRA health insurance is just ghoulish, How many actors could Adam Sandler's $250M Netflix deal pay for?

Should all actors earn the same amount of money? Even if certain actors make the studio millions while others don't?
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