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Re: Google is already pushing WEI into Chromium

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I hear Firefox is mismanaged all the time, but it seems to be a perfectly fine browser for the most part. I hear all about sites that won’t render in comments on this website, but they must all be internal tools or something because I never encounter them.

I sparingly run into sites that don't render properly on Firefox but they do exist. As an example, Ticketmaster's account page has problems on Firefox that I don't get on Chromium.

I have the same - not sure if its related to many privacy plugins in my Firefox but e.g. google maps still doesn't render as sharp as in Chromium browsers - seems like using rasterized tiles.

Re: Google is already pushing WEI into Chromium

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I do, and I keep having those tiring conversations, but it's really hard to get the point across in layman's terms. I have enough friends in tech who stick with Chrome out of convenience instead of just falling back on it in case something actually doesn't work in Firefox. how do I convince tech illiterate people of doing this?

For the tech illiterate recommend Safari. For tech people, appeal to their privileged position and the importance of defending the web by choosing any other browser (or Safari). Both users can keep Chrome installed as a fallback - that will help with convincing too.

And drop my Ublock origin, bypass paywall clean, etc? Hell no.

Re: Google is already pushing WEI into Chromium

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post #68

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Attempting to open an issue yields this message: "An owner of this repository has limited the ability to comment to users that have contributed to this repository in the past."

You can still report it as malware (which it actually is)

If only they had some sort of attestation scheme to root out dissent at the source.

Re: Google is already pushing WEI into Chromium

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I feel like I have to repeat this, since so much is at stake here, where it is about the preservation of the web as we know it today, at the peril of having it turned into yet another walled garden: The only way around the dystopia this will lead to is to constantly and relentlessly shame and even harass all those involved in helping create it. The scolding in the issue tracker of that wretched "project" shall flow l…

Tiktok is literally controlled by the CCP. If consumers don't care about that, they aren't going to care about DRM.

Re: Google is already pushing WEI into Chromium

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post #186

It's small, but here's a real actionable item that you can do to help: Put a gentle "Use Firefox" (or any other non-Chromium-based browser) message on your website. It doesn't have to be in-your-face, just something small. I've taken my own advice and added it to my own website: https://geeklaunch.io/ (It only appears on Chromium-based browsers.) We can slowly turn the tide, little by little.

This advice has strong 1998 vibes.

Re: Google is already pushing WEI into Chromium

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post #87

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And yet, you are probably somewhere in Google's databases.

And if they are broken up, now you’re in 5 companies’ databases, win? And then they are all probably going to implement “sign in with Google”.

>And if they are broken up, now you’re in 5 companies’ databases, win?

Yes, win. I'd rather be in a number of smaller businesses database than in the one last company's.

Re: Google is already pushing WEI into Chromium

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post #26

If this isn't the straw that breaks the camel's back, there is never going to be one. Google needs to be broken up. They own the browser market. They own the web (through Adwords). They own Search. They own mobile. They own most of the video sharing market with 2.5 billion monthly annual users. They own a good chunk of email with 1.2 billion monthly annual users. They have amassed an incomprehensible amount of power…

> Google needs to be broken up. To make it explicit: the only way this happens is by Americans voting for it. The FTC has been more active on anti-trust issues in the past two years than at any time in the past 30. That's a direct result of the 2020 election. Elections matter.

The FTC isn't going to do anything as Google/Alphabet is a big donor to the Democrats.

https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/alphabet-inc/recipients?id=...

Here is them lobbying specifically around antitrust reform legislation: https://www.opensecrets.org/federal-lobbying/bills/specific_...

Re: Google is already pushing WEI into Chromium

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Is there no EU regulation against this?

Careful, with the right arguments from Google the EU might just make this mandatory in the name of "security".

And if they prohibit it, Google will just pay a several billion dollar fine. At the end of the day, it's just a cost of doing business. Something like an extra 2% tax raise or something. Whatever. Dividend time.

Re: Google is already pushing WEI into Chromium

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post #186

It's small, but here's a real actionable item that you can do to help: Put a gentle "Use Firefox" (or any other non-Chromium-based browser) message on your website. It doesn't have to be in-your-face, just something small. I've taken my own advice and added it to my own website: https://geeklaunch.io/ (It only appears on Chromium-based browsers.) We can slowly turn the tide, little by little.

This advice has strong 1998 vibes.

to be fair, WEI has strong 1984 vibes
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