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Google engineers want to make ad-blocking (near) impossible

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Re: Google engineers want to make ad-blocking (near) impossible

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I hate ads as much as anyone but providing a free service that runs ads and shares part of that income with content creators is hardly particularly evil.

well, the whole concept of "ads" is a bit evil by itself

It really depends on whether you see ads as "bringing to the user's attention that there is a product out there that might improve their lives" or if you see them as "attempts to manipulate people into spending money on things they don't need or want".

I'm definitely in the latter group, but I can see how some market purists might believe in the first version.

Re: Google engineers want to make ad-blocking (near) impossible

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Blaming the engineers themselves?

They are the ones doing the work. They certainly have a choice not to.

The same engineers doing this in exchange for money, healthcare, etc to put food on their tables and provide for their families?

Not everyone has the ability to act on said 'choice' and risk their jobs, income, benefits.

Re: Google engineers want to make ad-blocking (near) impossible

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hate ads as much as anyone but providing a free service that runs ads and shares part of that income with content creators is hardly particularly evil.

I would accept ads more easily with if they were not a privacy disaster. I’m watching a video about cars, sure show me the ad about this crappy car brand I will never buy. I’m reading an article about Prometheus, sure show me an ad about your greatest SaaS metrics platform that cost more per monitored machine than my machine. No needs for cookies and tracking.

>I would accept ads more easily with if they were not a privacy disaster.

Would you really? I mean I keep hearing this but it doesn't ring true to me. People don't like ads in content because it interrupts what they are trying to consume and tries to leverage them away. This seems like a far greater motive to install an ad-blocker than some hand wavy tracking that probably doesn't even work that well.

Re: Google engineers want to make ad-blocking (near) impossible

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I hate ads as much as anyone but providing a free service that runs ads and shares part of that income with content creators is hardly particularly evil.

Lately I started getting shocksites kind of ads (think goatse.cx) of horrific cases of fungus in the legs or whatever. I pressed x on several occasions, naively thinking that anyone cares. Then I decided I don't want to see an ad in my life again. I got ublock origin on firefox and moved to Vivaldi browser in my android (which is a really good browser, coming with an adblocker out of the box). The hardest thing is in…

… And arrogant enough to tell yourself you are the cool guy on the internet.

It’s the arrogance that kills me.

Re: Google engineers want to make ad-blocking (near) impossible

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Maybe each household should host its army of noise-making AI which spews out page visits and random searches in order to let the people hide in the noise. Projects like these existed, I think it was an extension, but we'd probably need to do better than that.

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