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Is the #kony2012 campaign a scam, or just misleading?

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Re: Is the #kony2012 campaign a scam, or just misleading?

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The UN has a useful news service. People wanting to read about Kony, LRA, wars in Africa, etc could get useful information from them.

(http://www.irinnews.org/)

(http://www.irinnews.org/Report/94941/SECURITY-Questions-over...)

(http://www.irinnews.org/Report/94794/Analysis-The-LRA-not-ye...)

(http://www.irinnews.org/Report/94657/GLOBAL-Fighting-for-the...)

etc etc.

Re: Is the #kony2012 campaign a scam, or just misleading?

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This is like tactics and propaganda to get you in the army and which tells you you MUST FIGHT some other bad guy you only know from this movie. But essentially there are army A fighting army B over power to govern what goes on in that part of the world. Picking either one is legit choice. (or none if you don't want align yourself ).

I wonder what would propaganda movie be like if LRA pays same amount of resources to made it.

What if some rich guys pay this kind of propaganda movie against you one day. what would you do?

Re: Is the #kony2012 campaign a scam, or just misleading?

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post #18

While I don't have access to the financials of Invisible Children, I take issue with the seemingly implied idea that all charitable organizations should be run by paupers whose only reward is a warm fuzzy feeling. If we limit charitable actors to people who don't desire a certain level of compensation, we very severely limit the number of qualified charitable actors. If giving to a charity was viewed as purchasing a…

I give 1% of my income to Save the Children. Their financials are much better than Invisible Children's: http://www.savethechildren.org/site/c.8rKLIXMGIpI4E/b.622950...

EDIT: Invisible Children's financials: http://www.invisiblechildren.com/images/breakdownofexpenses....

Re: Is the #kony2012 campaign a scam, or just misleading?

#25

Yes, raising awareness is easy compared to finding a solution. But African politics has failed to solve a pretty awful issue for 25 years. Placing this issue in the global spotlight might force something to happen before another generation of villages is raped or abducted into slavery.

> But African politics has failed to solve a pretty awful issue for 25 years.

American foreign policy has failed to solve all sorts of issues. It has in fact helped exacerbate many of them.

Re: Is the #kony2012 campaign a scam, or just misleading?

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post #18

While I don't have access to the financials of Invisible Children, I take issue with the seemingly implied idea that all charitable organizations should be run by paupers whose only reward is a warm fuzzy feeling. If we limit charitable actors to people who don't desire a certain level of compensation, we very severely limit the number of qualified charitable actors. If giving to a charity was viewed as purchasing a…

Burning 70% of your money when you are a charity thats trying to do stuff is simply unacceptable, both by comparison to what the rest of the "market" is doing, and arguably by moral standards.

If your charity is doing advocacy or some similarly abstract activity, then it's very different.

Re: Is the #kony2012 campaign a scam, or just misleading?

#28

One of my big concerns about the US military getting involved in "removing" some crazed warlord from power is that our track record of doing that around the world indicates we do a piss-poor job of finding better replacements.

Vacuums. Vacuums aren't filled by the populace, they are filled by the strongest of potential successors. Often, one that the original manic was keeping at bay.

That actually leads to an interesting question. What happens if you just keep killing the bad guys? If you kill a dictator, then his evil successor, then his evil successor, does the next potential evil successor realize it's a bad idea and leave a decent guy in charge? Or do you just end up with chaos? Obviously assisination isn't this easy - but if it were?

Re: Is the #kony2012 campaign a scam, or just misleading?

#29
post #9

"[I am] inherently gloomy about the prospect of Africa [because] all our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours—whereas all the testing says not really." -James Watson, co-discoverer of DNA

So you're a believer of eugenics. Do you even know what you believe in?? Ask yourself, it's not late to change your mind, you've been victim of a mind-washing campaign. The only way to make you re-think is putting you into the "I've been a victim, I didn't know" position again.

Don't take this personal, this is a rhetorical question: "According to your weird belief in a form of eugenics, do you agree to be eliminated by someone who claims to be genetically better situated?"

Of course not! Let's face it, you want to live and you can become better, right? There is no such thing as race based intelligence, that's propaganda you've willingly accepted, without proving it, because you want to be a believer. You want to be part of something. You want to make the world better..really? If you really want to be part of something, stop spreading someone else's words, use your own "intelligence". James Watson simply manipulated facts.

Re: Is the #kony2012 campaign a scam, or just misleading?

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post #23

This is like tactics and propaganda to get you in the army and which tells you you MUST FIGHT some other bad guy you only know from this movie. But essentially there are army A fighting army B over power to govern what goes on in that part of the world. Picking either one is legit choice. (or none if you don't want align yourself ). I wonder what would propaganda movie be like if LRA pays same amount of resources to…

You're going too far to the opposite extreme. The LRA isn't a "legitimate choice". Kony 2012 doesn't exist in isolation, there is a large amount of independent evidence about the LRA's crimes.
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