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Re: Debian riscv64

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Post by panick21_ »

bee_rider wrote: post #105
ur-whale wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If there is a downfall of RISCV, it's going to be the myriad of sub-architectures and their weird naming schemes, with an added layer of marketing drones muddying up the waters even further. This is going to confuse the hell out of the potential customer base and it would be a crying shame, wasting a golden opportunity to get out of the oxygen-choking clutches of proprietary ISA vendors (who at this point are purely…

I mean, in the very least the proprietary ISA vendors provide the service of selecting what extensions are added. If you think too many extensions will take down RISC-V, that seems to have value.

RISC-V will do the same thing. That's what profiles and even further platforms will provide. Most software (the large investment) will target these profiles.

Not following the profiles will be possible but will cause issues.

Re: Debian riscv64

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Post by alexeldeib »

lproven wrote: post #149
alexeldeib wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What makes you think it’s an LLM? It made fine sense to me, it’s just an odd style

> It made fine sense to me, "Fine sense"? Even that isn't a standard phrase. I doubt you, TBH. Each paragraph barely coheres. Examples: > an entirely ideological win What does that mean? > there is a fully documented dearth of information ... is nonsensical. > a mere quandary of any part of the system More nonsense. > in the completely free entirety of information available until time itself forgets it ... wut? > ado…

tbh, on re-read I agree it's awkward, but to take some of the bait:

>> an entirely ideological win

> What does that mean?

ideological win makes sense. what's an entirely ideological win? one without non-ideological impact.

>> there is a fully documented dearth of information

> ... is nonsensical.

disagree. it is entirely sensical for a dearth of information about a well-defined topic to be documented. see: every github issue for project documentation ever.

Re: Debian riscv64

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Post by creatonez »

snvzz wrote: post #22

Looking forward to seeing this reflected in build statistics. 0. https://buildd.debian.org/stats/

i386 below arm64 is an interesting surprise. Seen some Debian developers mention struggles keeping 32-bit x86 going but didn't think it would have dropped that much.

Re: Debian riscv64

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Post by lproven »

alexeldeib wrote: post #152
lproven wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It made fine sense to me, "Fine sense"? Even that isn't a standard phrase. I doubt you, TBH. Each paragraph barely coheres. Examples: > an entirely ideological win What does that mean? > there is a fully documented dearth of information ... is nonsensical. > a mere quandary of any part of the system More nonsense. > in the completely free entirety of information available until time itself forgets it ... wut? > ado…

tbh, on re-read I agree it's awkward, but to take some of the bait: >> an entirely ideological win > What does that mean? ideological win makes sense. what's an entirely ideological win? one without non-ideological impact. >> there is a fully documented dearth of information > ... is nonsensical. disagree. it is entirely sensical for a dearth of information about a well-defined topic to be documented. see: every gith…

Huh.

Well, OK then. @superdug keeps posting and responding and seems to be acting like a human, so maybe it's just me.

There is a chap in the Hitchhiker's Guide fan club who I've known online for >20Y who is a native English speaker, but his comments and posts online read almost like bot-generated text. Most of them, I have to ask him to explain, often 3 or 4 times, until he can produce something coherent to other humans. His grammar and spelling are perfectly fine but his mind works weirdly and he writes about references to passing thoughts that occurred to him and is not able to recognise that others do not share those random associations. Some of my friends have got so irritated with it, they've just blocked him.

Perhaps this is a case a little like that? It makes almost no sense to me, but apparently, it does to you, so maybe the failing is on my end.

Re: Debian riscv64

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Post by m_z_s »

retrocryptid wrote: post #42
djha-skin wrote: post #11

Any promising riscv64 computers on the market I should know about? Raspberry pi level or otherwise? What computers could I use this distro on?

I just got a Beagle-V. With luck I'll have time to put the latest Debian on it.

I think that the TH1520 in the Beagle-V and Lichee Pi 4A only has support for 5.10 kernel (curently) at least for access to most of the features of the SoC. If you do not mind loosing access to most features of the SoC, then you can run any kernel. An example what you would loose access to with any other kernel would be GUI support, and the ability for the VPU to encode/decode video. But there are many many more (For now, hopefully they will upstream support).

Plug "site:lore.kernel.org TH1520" into your search engine of choice to see what hardware is in the process of being upstreamed to the bleeding edge Linux kernel-next. Which is probably about a year away from being in a longterm suported Linux kernel.

ref: https://github.com/ThomasKaiser/sbc-bench/blob/master/Result...

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