So what's the plan to force China to cease being the world leader in CO2 emissions?
Build more american LNG generators
Crucial system of ocean currents is collapsing; ‘affects everyone on the planet’
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maybe if we pay more taxes and stop eating hamburgers we can solve it
We the people dont need to pay more taxes but the polluting companies should. We the people should not keep doing the polluting companies favours by focusing on complaining about things like veggie burgers and paper straws. We should keep demanding real action. If you think paper straws and tree planting is dumb and useless (which I can totally relate to), don’t use that to mock the whole enterprise but pressure all…
unfortunately the reality is that our rights get removed while the big guys get to continue doing as they please
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#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
We the people dont need to pay more taxes but the polluting companies should. We the people should not keep doing the polluting companies favours by focusing on complaining about things like veggie burgers and paper straws. We should keep demanding real action. If you think paper straws and tree planting is dumb and useless (which I can totally relate to), don’t use that to mock the whole enterprise but pressure all…
unfortunately the reality is that our rights get removed while the big guys get to continue doing as they please
I know that is a risk but it is only made worse by talking about the useless stuff and not talking about the real actions that should be directed towards the large corporations.
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#55So what's the plan to force China to cease being the world leader in CO2 emissions?
Presumably the majority of what China produces only exists because every day billions of people in other countries open their wallets, deliberately choose dozens of items with "Made in China" stamped firmly upon them, and thus routinely cast their financial vote about how the world should continue.
Re: Crucial system of ocean currents is collapsing; ‘affects everyone on the planet’
#56HN headline is very click-baity.
Context: Collapse around the middle of the century or as soon as 2025. (That’s a big error bar.)
(CNN) A vital system of ocean currents could collapse within a few decades if the world continues to pump out planet-heating pollution, scientists are warning – an event that would be catastrophic for global weather and “affect every person on the planet.”
A new study published Tuesday in the journal Nature, found that the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Current – of which the Gulf Stream is a part – could collapse around the middle of the century, or even as early as 2025.
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#57So what's the plan to force China to cease being the world leader in CO2 emissions?
And India is coming up fast as demographics propel them to become the world’s most populous country, replacing China.
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#58Sorry to post twice on this thread, but this concept gets so little relative attention, and to me, this is a huge and viable idea. And low cost. Sure you need to cover a lot of land but if this technique was applied to farm lands it cloud have a disproportionate carbon sink effect relative to things like direct air capture or carbon storage. Worth additional attention IMO.
“Sprinkling basalt over soil could remove huge amounts of carbon dioxide from the atmosphere”
https://physicsworld.com/a/sprinkling-basalt-over-soil-could...
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#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think what OP wants to say is that despite the timeline for the event being in the future, nothing we can do today will prevent it from happening. The triggers for the event are in the past and nothing can be done, therefore "it has happened".
That only makes sense if the predictions are accurate and highly probable. Time unfortunately, has shown that these dire predictions are often wrong. There has been a good 20 years of climate hysteria to pull from. All one has to do is look at old newspapers and read the dire predictions from 2010 to have a good laugh at our sensational media.
First, it would be fortunate that dire predictions are often wrong. But they haven't been. Massive environmental predictions have been correct for decades (or feel free to provide examples).