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The first room-temperature ambient-pressure superconductor?

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One of the authors in a related paper[1] is Hyun-Tak Kim. He has many publications in peer-reviewed journals[2]. One even has > 1500 citations[3]. I can't tell if there is a catch anywhere, this seems pretty legitimate. Also, unlike some previous claims that required sophisticated setup to reproduce, this seems dead simple. I think we will hear from other researchers very soon. 1. Superconductor Pb10-xCux(PO4)6O show…

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The actual picture of (poor) levitation in the paper you linked is pretty compelling. This isn’t a complex, noisy measurement showing something that’s related to superconductivity — this is a magnet and a supposed superconductor repelling each other. As far as I know, that’s possible with permanent magnets (and it would be weird, but not impossible, if the group instead synthesized a novel ferromagnet and didn’t noti…

Their other data doesn't line up with ferromagnetism, though. It's either the real thing or a big fraud. Guess we'll find out soon enough. ETA: the video referenced is apparently available at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtVjGWpbE7k . Interestingly, posted on Feb 26, 2023.

Yeah, that thing does really want to stay in a constant level on the magnetic field. That would dispel every other explanation on the GP, as it's not simply being repelled or attracted.

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Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtVjGWpbE7k I really need someone to bring me down a notch. This is too exciting!

Indeed, this will change pretty much everything if true. A true room temperature / ambient pressure superconductor will cause a revolution in so many fields that I find it hard to believe. But if... Let's wait for replication before throwing a party. This is on par with the discovery of the transistor and possibly bigger.

Superconductors have a current limit above which they are no longer superconductors. It is possible that a room temperature superconductor could be created that has a limit too low to be of any practical use.

It seems this is worth cautious excitement, but don't get too excited yet.

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What material and setup could even fake that result?

A fan?

It would be very hard to fake the locking effect at 0:08 and 0:18 (and a few more times) with a fan.

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Levitation is to be expected for any superconductor when it's in a superconducting state; that part is banal. The big question is whether it's actually a superconductor at RTP. Their results are strong enough that it's unlikely to be a mistake, though fraud is possible too (although it is so easily uncovered given the simplicity of preparing the material and the strength of the reported effects that fraud seems almos…

Just give it to me straight - when will the levitation give us hoverboards?

As long as you only want them to hover over a magnet...

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A sister paper [0] has a photo of the material exhibiting the Meisner effect and levitating over a magnet, and claims to have a video too. Either they blatantly photoshopped the photo or they actually made a room temperature super conductor. I can’t see how the could have made a subtle mistake that resulted in magnetic levitation at room temp without making a superconductor. [0] - https://arxiv.org/abs/2307.12037

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtVjGWpbE7k I really need someone to bring me down a notch. This is too exciting!

That video isn't very convincing. The usual test is that the material can float above the magnet.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtVjGWpbE7k This is an unlisted video of the LK-99 film (purportedly)

I need someone to burst my bubble, this is too exciting

I can't deboonk it from what I can see. It would be interesting if it zoomed out to show the environment this was occurring in.

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Latex is a waste of human potential. I've done professional typesetting and cataloging with QuarkXPress and InDesign both and it was extremely fast, that's for professional high quality publishing. .doc and .md is fine for information first publishing. Latex is not simple and is in my opinion just a big nerd snipe, its the intrusive thought of layout software, for humanities sake we'd be better off with simpler tools…

Reminds of "command line is faster than GUI" folks who get timed doing every task slower. "But it feels faster!"

Now repeat what you did

Re: The first room-temperature ambient-pressure superconductor?

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The actual picture of (poor) levitation in the paper you linked is pretty compelling. This isn’t a complex, noisy measurement showing something that’s related to superconductivity — this is a magnet and a supposed superconductor repelling each other. As far as I know, that’s possible with permanent magnets (and it would be weird, but not impossible, if the group instead synthesized a novel ferromagnet and didn’t noti…

>As far as I know, that’s possible with permanent magnets (and it would be weird, but not impossible, if the group instead synthesized a novel ferromagnet and didn’t notice) As far as I know a stable arrangement of permanent magnets levitating is impossible without a baring surface to keep them aligned. (i.e. free floating levitation is not possible without active control)

Just so everyone is on the same page, static passive diamagnetic levitation is possible with materials like pyrolytic graphite.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diamagnetism

https://www.kjmagnetics.com/blog.asp?p=diamagnetic-levitatio...

...and superconductors are usually perfectly diamagnetic.

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