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The first room-temperature ambient-pressure superconductor?

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Re: The first room-temperature ambient-pressure superconductor?

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This is an unreviewed preprint coming out of South Korea. If it’s reproducible it would be the biggest scientific discovery of the last hundred years. It will literally reshape the world. However, the most likely thing is they made a mistake and the paper will be withdrawn. But imagine if it’s true.

They claim to have observed the Meisner effect, quantum locking unique to superconductors, a pretty big signal, so more likely fraud than a mistake.

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After skimming the paper, it reads like a legitimate paper even though I have zero expertise in the area. That it is in Word instead of LaTeX makes it feel a bit less legitimate to me and they could of course always have some error in there setup. The most notable thing to me was that this was done in a thin film where structural defects are supposedly responsible for strain in the material which in turn enables the…

Word is one of the most common tools for writing papers. There was a study a while back that looked at the quality of Word or Latex papers. The study found that researchers using Word were more effective, and the working theory that explained it was that people who focused on the research did better research, and people focusing on the typesetting do better typesetting.

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If this were true, I would’ve expected to see it on the front page of the New York Times, not hiding in a scientific journal. Color me skeptical, with a hint of optimism.

It's a preprint. Also, NYT doesn't publish scientific papers.

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This is an unreviewed preprint coming out of South Korea. If it’s reproducible it would be the biggest scientific discovery of the last hundred years. It will literally reshape the world. However, the most likely thing is they made a mistake and the paper will be withdrawn. But imagine if it’s true.

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post #31

After skimming the paper, it reads like a legitimate paper even though I have zero expertise in the area. That it is in Word instead of LaTeX makes it feel a bit less legitimate to me and they could of course always have some error in there setup. The most notable thing to me was that this was done in a thin film where structural defects are supposedly responsible for strain in the material which in turn enables the…

So you're saying it could be a great sensor, similar to a Josephson junction? :-)

Update: "yes", from the paper: "The Josephson-like phenomenon for the under-damped junction of superconductor-normal metal-superconductor(21, 22) or Inter-grain coupled superconductors(23) and the thermoelectric effect(24-26) of the inter- or intra-grain network were also observed."

Re: The first room-temperature ambient-pressure superconductor?

#47

This is an unreviewed preprint coming out of South Korea. If it’s reproducible it would be the biggest scientific discovery of the last hundred years. It will literally reshape the world. However, the most likely thing is they made a mistake and the paper will be withdrawn. But imagine if it’s true.

"We believe that our new development will be a brand-new historical event that opens a new era for humankind."

Hell of a way to end a paper.

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One of the authors in a related paper[1] is Hyun-Tak Kim. He has many publications in peer-reviewed journals[2]. One even has > 1500 citations[3].

I can't tell if there is a catch anywhere, this seems pretty legitimate. Also, unlike some previous claims that required sophisticated setup to reproduce, this seems dead simple. I think we will hear from other researchers very soon.

1. Superconductor Pb10-xCux(PO4)6O showing levitation at room temperature and atmospheric pressure and mechanism: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2307.12037.pdf

2. Google Scholar: https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=_P8mux4AAAAJ&hl=en

3. Mott transition in VO2 revealed by infrared spectroscopy and nano-imaging: https://scholar.google.com/citations?view_op=view_citation&h...

Re: The first room-temperature ambient-pressure superconductor?

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This is an unreviewed preprint coming out of South Korea. If it’s reproducible it would be the biggest scientific discovery of the last hundred years. It will literally reshape the world. However, the most likely thing is they made a mistake and the paper will be withdrawn. But imagine if it’s true.

Even if we found the perfect material, where it was easy and cheap to create long strong wires for power transmission as well as semiconductor-scale nano wires, we'd be gaining something like (wild ass guess) 20% gain in efficiency. 20% would be nice but would it really beat the last hundred years of discoveries? I don't think so, especially with digital tech's profound world-reshaping continuing to accelerate.

Re: The first room-temperature ambient-pressure superconductor?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

From my understanding it is superconductive up to that temp. So, superconductive at room temp and even further.

The critical temperature (Tc) >= 400 K or about 127 C, so apparently this material requires relatively high heat to reach superconductivity. This is unusual, superconductivity is a low temperature phenomenon. Recently though, other researches have claimed room temperature superconductivity at high pressures, but low temperatures.

Uh no, I'm pretty confident they are just saying that whatever the Tc is, it's at least 127°C. I don't think they're redefining Tc to mean that it superconducts above that temperature. That would be... interesting.

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