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Re: The Ruby on Rails Tutorial, now with Twitter's Bootstrap

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Post by lunaru »

tikhonj wrote: post #26
starfox wrote: post #5

This is why I stick with Rails; for the mindshare. There are many reasons to be critical of Rails, but the bottom line is that other people generously contribute work like this on a regular basis, making me instantly more valuable to employers or clients.

This is a good point, and it's one of the main reasons I prefer open source in general: this is true for almost all fairly active open source projects. However, I'm not sure how this differentiates Rails from some of the other popular web frameworks.

Rails is now pretty old (in tech years) and one reason for active participation and contribution to the community is that the Rails team continues promote forward movement in the framework. So Rails is also always new.

A lot of the stuff people moan about (e.g. lack of backwards compatibility and constant breaking changes) is also what keeps it fresh. It's not hard to introduce new best practices because the old ones are continually tossed out. This can't be said for a lot of open source projects that value stability over change. (For some projects, stability is rightfully more important).

Re: The Ruby on Rails Tutorial, now with Twitter's Bootstrap

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Post by RobertLysik »

I'm glad I saw this, I had to clear my cached pages to see that Blueprint was swapped out in Chapter 5 for Bootstrap. Now this will give me another chance to play with Git :) This was already a brilliant tutorial, but this has made it even better since I was looking for an opportunity to experiment with the Bootstrap framework, thanks!

Re: The Ruby on Rails Tutorial, now with Twitter's Bootstrap

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Post by mechanical_fish »

joedev wrote: post #25

Developers moaning about Bootstrap have fallen into the common trap of seeing apps through developers' eyes. Please consider that: 1. Almost no one in the world has heard of Bootstrap. Though it's captured our mindshare as developers, most of our users will not know nor care if the app is Bootstrap or not. 2. The vast majority of web apps still will not be Bootstrap apps. Basically none of the general public will say…

The moans are a useful sign of ripeness. So few things are great and tenacious enough to both earn and endure the moans of fashionable early adopters.

Re: The Ruby on Rails Tutorial, now with Twitter's Bootstrap

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Post by rjsamson »

mechanical_fish wrote: post #34
joedev wrote: post #25

Developers moaning about Bootstrap have fallen into the common trap of seeing apps through developers' eyes. Please consider that: 1. Almost no one in the world has heard of Bootstrap. Though it's captured our mindshare as developers, most of our users will not know nor care if the app is Bootstrap or not. 2. The vast majority of web apps still will not be Bootstrap apps. Basically none of the general public will say…

The moans are a useful sign of ripeness. So few things are great and tenacious enough to both earn and endure the moans of fashionable early adopters.

Great point mechanical_fish, that really sums up the reality of Bootstrap I think.

Re: The Ruby on Rails Tutorial, now with Twitter's Bootstrap

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Post by kcima »

When I tutor beginners in Rails, I always make them walk through this tutorial first. Step by step. Without using copy & paste.

I really like tutoring and I am more than happy to help folks who want to build the next big thing.

However, first I make people write down their idea, set it aside, and forget about it. I tell them not to try to adapt this tutorial to their own idea, but just follow it to the letter and build the example application. It doesn't take that long.

Before anything, you need to know what you need to know. This tutorial has been and continues to be a great way to learn much of what you need to know... then you can go build the next big thing.

Re: The Ruby on Rails Tutorial, now with Twitter's Bootstrap

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Post by [deleted] »

mirceagoia wrote: post #30
msluyter wrote: post #29

I think this tutorial is a treasure. It's a great introduction to the entire rails ecosystem, including TDD, git, heroku, and the like. I went through the 3.0 version a while ago, but so slowly (as in, a chapter every couple of weeks) that I forgot a lot of it. To those like myself, working through this in your off hours, I recommend keeping Anki (or equivalent) open and adding notes as you go.

I am proud to say it mentions my Ruby on Rails installation guide for Ubuntu and Mint here: http://ruby.railstutorial.org/ruby-on-rails-tutorial-book?ve... (the guide itself is here http://www.mirceagoia.com/2011/11/ruby-on-rails-installation... ).

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Re: The Ruby on Rails Tutorial, now with Twitter's Bootstrap

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Post by EzGraphs »

joedev wrote: post #25

Developers moaning about Bootstrap have fallen into the common trap of seeing apps through developers' eyes. Please consider that: 1. Almost no one in the world has heard of Bootstrap. Though it's captured our mindshare as developers, most of our users will not know nor care if the app is Bootstrap or not. 2. The vast majority of web apps still will not be Bootstrap apps. Basically none of the general public will say…

Agreed - I am a dev and a bit sick of seeing Bootstrap splashed across quickly designed sites. That said, I demoed a site I built using Bootstrap recently to some business users and was complimented on my design ability.
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