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Re: The Fall of Stack Overflow

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The problems I’ve noticed with Stack Overflow are a few and hard for me to narrow down but basically: - google used to return really relevant results for SO, and it stopped doing so at some point a while ago - moderation on SO has gotten progressively more horrible. can’t tell you how many times I found the exact, bizarre question I was asking only to see one comment trying to answer it and then a mod aggressively sh…

Your first point seems to be most important. > - google used to return really relevant results for SO, and it stopped doing so at some point a while ago SO might be horrible now, but it still holds years worth of answers that were just fine a few years ago - so why aren't they showing up now? Google's current recommendation of going to w3schools or - even worse - geeks4geeks or any other content farm is and always wi…

It's been over 10 years and it still endlessly frustrates me that searching for any Ruby or Rails documentation will send you to an APIDock page for Rails 3.2 and you have basically goad Google into giving you the official documentation for either.

I suppose the real frustration is that Google became so pervasive that bookmarking a website and using its own search functionality is a total afterthought.

Re: The Fall of Stack Overflow

#533

Where were these data sourced from? As far as I know, StackOverflow does not publicize internal analytics with such granularity. If these figures are real, are they leaked?

Users with over 25,000 reputation can see site analytics that include charts that look a lot like these. https://stackoverflow.com/help/privileges/site-analytics

I can confirm: https://i.snipboard.io/0wmnSv.jpg

Re: The Fall of Stack Overflow

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post #533

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Users with over 25,000 reputation can see site analytics that include charts that look a lot like these. https://stackoverflow.com/help/privileges/site-analytics

I can confirm: https://i.snipboard.io/0wmnSv.jpg

We can also see that lately there are more questions than answers, which shows that most experts are no longer that active, or that there are more beginners and fewer experts overall.

Re: The Fall of Stack Overflow

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> Can you give a link on how to use it? Every time I tried to google it returns lots of different results and when I tried it it:s not even usable for basic things I want. Here is an example of using it to write simple powershell scripts: * https://chat.openai.com/share/17a9d185-4a8c-4c10-97a2-0c5b08... Here is an example of using it to merge different types of json configuration files: * https://chat.openai.com/shar…

In that JSON example you're honestly losing more time with ChatGPT that doing it yourself. It seems more like mentoring a junior than a helpful assistant. Most of my interactions with it have been this way.

I knew/know very little about 3D printers and the fields didn't mean much to me so I didn't want to have to research every one of them. It wouldn't have been difficult, just tedious.

Re: The Fall of Stack Overflow

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This whole situation just shows as a lie everything we hear about SEO. Stack Overflow has the exact text, it loads incredibly fast (should be commended more for this), doesn't require ten meg of Javascript to render as far as I know generally meets HTML standards. These scam sites load megabytes of junk, load slowly, have text interpersed with ads and modals that render right on top of them, if you open devtools you'…

> These scam sites load megabytes of junk, load slowly, have text interpersed with ads and modals that render right on top of them Only if you're not googlebot. The crawler sees a much nicer site.

Does it even make sense to serve different content to a bot than what a human would see? Isn't the search engine trying to rank content made for humans?

Re: The Fall of Stack Overflow

#538

The problems I’ve noticed with Stack Overflow are a few and hard for me to narrow down but basically: - google used to return really relevant results for SO, and it stopped doing so at some point a while ago - moderation on SO has gotten progressively more horrible. can’t tell you how many times I found the exact, bizarre question I was asking only to see one comment trying to answer it and then a mod aggressively sh…

Google keeps returning SO answer threads that are way too old to be relevant. Like a question with a top answer from 2013.

I recently was looking into why wget --quiet --content-on-error didn't output anything with a 403. Turns out its an ancient bug they never fixed... it's not documented anywhere, except some crusty old thread on SO.

Re: The Fall of Stack Overflow

#539
post #349

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Your first point seems to be most important. > - google used to return really relevant results for SO, and it stopped doing so at some point a while ago SO might be horrible now, but it still holds years worth of answers that were just fine a few years ago - so why aren't they showing up now? Google's current recommendation of going to w3schools or - even worse - geeks4geeks or any other content farm is and always wi…

This whole situation just shows as a lie everything we hear about SEO. Stack Overflow has the exact text, it loads incredibly fast (should be commended more for this), doesn't require ten meg of Javascript to render as far as I know generally meets HTML standards. These scam sites load megabytes of junk, load slowly, have text interpersed with ads and modals that render right on top of them, if you open devtools you'…

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Re: The Fall of Stack Overflow

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My unbaked opinion is that a majority of the forum was a javascript help board and with the advent of more advanced and silly web frontends the ability to 'copy paste' a snippet is less viable for javascript guys and so a lot of the value of being a front end snippet repository is lost to the fact you now need a primer on the flavor of javascript, the build tools, the package management and it's 200 LOC across three files to get your react bloat to work.
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