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Re: Windows 8 & Metro with Mouse and Keyboard - Super User Blog

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post #16

My issue with the active corners is that they are impossible to use with multiple monitors. Fitt's Law actively works against it; instead of being able to slam your mouse, you have to gingerly move it to the right spot.

There are a lot of new shortcut keys alleviate that problem a lot.

Re: Windows 8 & Metro with Mouse and Keyboard - Super User Blog

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

A shortcut you can use is Windows key + C. More here: http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2012/02/getting-starte... http://www.kotaku.com.au/2012/03/windows-8-tricks-tips-and-s... Looking at the comments, it's like people can't even spend 5 or 10 mins getting to know a new UI in a redesigned OS. And then some complain about the dumbification of everything. Maybe they're wrong and everything must be dumbed down to t…

But, But, ... Is it not at least a tad reasonable for people to be a bit upset about MS strong-arming a fix into the not-broken UI they've been using for a while now? Why should Bob at home with his five year old Dell care that this MS' salvo in the Tablet Wars? Why?

>Why should Bob at home with his five year old Dell care that this MS' salvo in the Tablet Wars? Why?

Because according to Apple and articles, blogs and comments I read here, in the Post-PC world we are now living in, Bob is replacing that Dell with an iPad.

Re: Windows 8 & Metro with Mouse and Keyboard - Super User Blog

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post #16

My issue with the active corners is that they are impossible to use with multiple monitors. Fitt's Law actively works against it; instead of being able to slam your mouse, you have to gingerly move it to the right spot.

There are a lot of new shortcut keys alleviate that problem a lot.

How many people who use Windows on a regular basis know anything but using their mouse to interact with the OS? How many normal users do you know that know the current Windows shortcut keys? Expecting people to learn new ones is a bit silly in my opinion.

Re: Windows 8 & Metro with Mouse and Keyboard - Super User Blog

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post #16

My issue with the active corners is that they are impossible to use with multiple monitors. Fitt's Law actively works against it; instead of being able to slam your mouse, you have to gingerly move it to the right spot.

Nevermind the fact that there are no visual cues for the user to know that the corners actually do something. Same with closing a program, it's a hidden gesture. Those sentences deserve many exclamation points and expletives.

If this is supposed to be easy to use then it should be intuitive.

Re: Windows 8 & Metro with Mouse and Keyboard - Super User Blog

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are a lot of new shortcut keys alleviate that problem a lot.

How many people who use Windows on a regular basis know anything but using their mouse to interact with the OS? How many normal users do you know that know the current Windows shortcut keys? Expecting people to learn new ones is a bit silly in my opinion.

How many normal users have multiple monitors? There might be a lot, but we're going up a notch above normal users and towards power users here.

Re: Windows 8 & Metro with Mouse and Keyboard - Super User Blog

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I'm still baffled as to why Windows 8 is not a dedicated tablet OS. I think it would be a dream to use on a touch device and commend Microsoft for the Metro design, but they had to screw it up by shoehorning it onto the desktop too.

I've given Windows 8 an honest try on my dual monitor setup and it just isn't happening. Metro is out of place, consumes 100% screen real estate (meaning fast context switching between windows or monitoring multiple windows is impossible) and is constantly frustrating with its hidden controls and undiscoverable features.

The fact that they had to include Windows 7 in Windows 8 is proof enough that Metro is not suitable for the desktop. Windows 8 feels like a bizarre mashup OS that has no place on the desktop.

Re: Windows 8 & Metro with Mouse and Keyboard - Super User Blog

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My two cents after using Win8 for a week on a laptop:

- Hot corners: fail. MS needs to extend hot zones. Finding the exact point with the touchpad is sometimes tricky. I can imagine the horror on multimonitor configuration.

- I actually like the start screen. It's clean, and it responds to typing even faster than Win7 start button. Two minor problems: 1) you need to clean up icons after every installation and 2) it doesn't shows everything when I'm typing - I need to explicitly select "settings" after I type "mouse", for example (it's tab - down - enter, not a big deal, but still). Windows 7 start screen displays all find results at once.

- Keyboard is your friend: Win + c for charms, Win + q for programs search, Win + w for settings search. Learn these three shortcuts and you'll have less angry fist shaking.

- Metro: I really hope that the next year will bring us laptops with touch screens. Until then, metro applications aren't very useful when you have only mouse and keyboard.

The rest is, more or less, the same as in Windows 7.

Re: Windows 8 & Metro with Mouse and Keyboard - Super User Blog

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post #16

My issue with the active corners is that they are impossible to use with multiple monitors. Fitt's Law actively works against it; instead of being able to slam your mouse, you have to gingerly move it to the right spot.

On KDE, the corners just move to the most extreme screen. So any action set to a left corner will work from that corner of the left screen, while any actions set to a right corner will work from that corner on the right screen. This still isn't perfect, but works fairly well in practice. I'm not sure it's directly applicable to Windows 8 because I haven't tried it yet, but it's something to think about.
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