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Re: Zenbleed

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> AMD have released an microcode update for affected processors. Your BIOS or Operating System vendor may already have an update available that includes it.

Yes, I love flashing BIOS...

edit nvm, Microcode can get updated via system updates.

Re: Zenbleed

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AMD Ryzen 5000 Series Processors with Radeon Graphics

Does this mean Ryzen CPUs without integrated graphics are fine?

Re: Zenbleed

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Relevant snippet:

This technique is CVE-2023-20593 and it works on all Zen 2 class processors, which includes at least the following products:

    AMD Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
    AMD Ryzen PRO 3000 Series Processors
    AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3000 Series Processors
    AMD Ryzen 4000 Series Processors with Radeon Graphics
    AMD Ryzen PRO 4000 Series Processors
    AMD Ryzen 5000 Series Processors with Radeon Graphics
    AMD Ryzen 7020 Series Processors with Radeon Graphics
    AMD EPYC “Rome” Processors

Re: Zenbleed

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post #3

AMD Ryzen 5000 Series Processors with Radeon Graphics Does this mean Ryzen CPUs without integrated graphics are fine?

No, it's all Zen 2 CPUs, which include both desktop CPUs (with or without integrated graphics, laptop CPUs, and server CPUs. The reason why the product list is so confusing is that AMD reuses architectures across generations. You'd think that all ryzen 5000 series CPUs have the same microarchitecture, but they don't). It's much easier to consult this list instead: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_2#Products

Re: Zenbleed

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post #2

> AMD have released an microcode update for affected processors. Your BIOS or Operating System vendor may already have an update available that includes it. Yes, I love flashing BIOS... edit nvm, Microcode can get updated via system updates.

To be fair, flashing the bios isn't nearly as bad on most modern systems.

Put the file on a USB drive, plug it in, restart and go into the bios, look for the flashing utility, select the file, done. As long as the machine is on a UPS in case of disaster, everything's accounted for.

Re: Zenbleed

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post #2

> AMD have released an microcode update for affected processors. Your BIOS or Operating System vendor may already have an update available that includes it. Yes, I love flashing BIOS... edit nvm, Microcode can get updated via system updates.

Microcode updates haven't been managed in-BIOS for over a decade now. If you use Linux, you'll usually see them released as some package like "intel-microcode" or "amd-microcode".

Even EFI updates rarely are very intrusive or dangerous, and can also be handled by the Operating System via an update.

Re: Zenbleed

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post #2

> AMD have released an microcode update for affected processors. Your BIOS or Operating System vendor may already have an update available that includes it. Yes, I love flashing BIOS... edit nvm, Microcode can get updated via system updates.

To be fair, flashing the bios isn't nearly as bad on most modern systems. Put the file on a USB drive, plug it in, restart and go into the bios, look for the flashing utility, select the file, done. As long as the machine is on a UPS in case of disaster, everything's accounted for.

From my experience: Better have a > 32gig USB Flash drive, everything else doesn't work (MSI) and I don't have an UPS so it's always quite an exciting experience. Especially since Motherboard Manifactures save almost a whole dollar by not having a display ouputting anything. So it's blinkenlights and hope for the best

Re: Zenbleed

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post #3

AMD Ryzen 5000 Series Processors with Radeon Graphics Does this mean Ryzen CPUs without integrated graphics are fine?

No this means AMD's numbering scheme is intentionally obtuse. This has nothing to do with graphics, but with the CPU core, Zen 2.
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