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Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by batch12 »

megous wrote: post #514
Tade0 wrote: post #381

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It's a chain of abuse. Most paedophiles were abused in childhood.

Pedophilia != child sexual abuse. Just like being attracted to women doesn't mean you're a rapist. You can be, though. Also consumption of any kind of distrubing porn doesn't mean you actually want to do things you see in it in the real life. This is about the same principle like when people are watching action movies (which is an accepted kind of often very disturbing cinematography), most don't want to go around an…

> Also consumption of any kind of distrubing porn doesn't mean you actually want to do things you see in it in the real life.

No, but it does mean you support the abuse necessary to produce it.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by hakavlad »

throwaway914 wrote: post #196
sillysaurusx wrote: post #34

The eternal struggle. Information wants to be free, and then people use those freedoms to do the most screwed up things imaginable, and people like this pay the price. It’s a damn shame how the original cyberpunk dream played out. We could’ve had a world where companies couldn’t do anything about people using their ideas. Instead we get one where you can’t even be anonymous without rubbing elbows with child predators…

There are many, many pedophiles out there. I'm also convinced of a conspiracy theory that a lot of dark web traffic and hosts are created/operated by secret parts of the gov to de-legitimize the need for anonymity. I believe this because it would be too easy with the access to that material and no oversight. Just muddy the waters so nothing in there looks worth protecting.

>There are many, many pedophiles

If a person watches the CP - this does not mean that he is a pedophile. If a person watches the CP - this does not mean that he is a child abuser.

Sharing CP != child abuse. Viewing CP != child abuse. Storing CP != child abuse.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by hakavlad »

tekla wrote: post #148
throw0101a wrote: post #143

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> Maybe open source generative AI can help solve cp. Cater to all these pedophile fetishes, and no need to exploit children? Illegal in Canada (even animated/cartoons): * https://windsor.ctvnews.ca/man-facing-child-porn-charges-aft... Edit: fictional material seems to be illegal in quite a lot of countries: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_child_pornography * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_f…

CP is disgusting and everything, but I'm kinda weirded out about thought crime. If no harm is being done, not even indirectly to anyone else, why is it a crime? It's not illegal to write a fanfic that you keep to yourself about all the weird ways that you want to torture and kill someone.

>CP is disgusting and everything

Why do you think so? Maybe you just haven't seen a good CP before.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by mptest »

delecti wrote: post #316
mptest wrote: post #251

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How did nonce get that meaning in the uk? I've always known nonce to be a single use number

Seems it's unclear https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/nonce#Etymology_2 > 1975. Unknown, derived from British criminal slang. Several origins have been proposed; possibly derived from dialectal nonce, nonse (“stupid, worthless individual”) (but this cannot be shown to predate nonce "child-molester" and is likely a toned-down usage of the same insult), or Nance, nance (“effeminate man, homosexual”), from nancy or nancyboy…

Wow, "backronym". Cool word. Interesting something can be widely accepted among a nation and have little to no surety about etymology

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by LeBit »

foobiekr wrote: post #200
sillysaurusx wrote: post #195

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Which vpn was no-log-but-logging? I was shopping around for an alternative after mullvad blocked port forwarding, but it seems like no one else is as trustworthy. Not that I need it for my “attempt to port forward smash ultimate from within crummy hospital internet” purposes, but hey, principle of the thing and all that.

All of them.

Trust me bro.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by LeBit »

chollida1 wrote: post #315
rvba wrote: post #260

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Looking at the scale of NordVPN they either already have a liason with aurhorities inside, or are hacked by authorities. The (law enforcement) agencies can just go to the few biggest VPN suppliers. Just like they go to FAANG.

> Looking at the scale of NordVPN they either already have a liason with aurhorities inside, or are hacked by authorities. Based on what? You just seem to be making a wild unsubstantiated conjecture here.

This thread is a bullshitters playground.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by LeBit »

anonym29 wrote: post #445
ljm wrote: post #404

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tl;dr if you want your network to be private, maybe don’t pay a saas to do it. Your ISP already tracks ingress and egress.

This is really the unfortunate truth. >90% of global ISP's not only collect but also sell netflow metadata commercially. Nanosecond timestamps, packet sizes, source IPs, destination IP's. Doesn't matter what VPN provider you use, whether you're using Tor, how many residential proxies you're routing through via a complex proxychains config... commercial entities can correlate virtually all of it. Team Cymru is one suc…

Let's keep this simple.

Let's say you are using an ISP to connect to a VPN provider.

That VPN provider does what most of them do and SNATs multiple customers connections to a single exit public IP.

How can they correlate the encrypted wireguard data from my ISP connection to the VPN provider and then from the VPN provider to the final endpoint (say, ProtonMail)?

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by LeBit »

remram wrote: post #362
jokethrowaway wrote: post #277

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buy a cheap vps server with btc and setup your own vpn

You'd have to hope the VPS host is not logging...

BuyVM supposedly ignores DMCA for their Luxembourg VPSs.

Though, that IP you are using is not shared with anyone else and BuyVM doesn't promess not to log.

That IP is directly correlated to you in BuyVM's books.

That is the very worst option.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by hakavlad »

batch12 wrote: post #521
megous wrote: post #514

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Pedophilia != child sexual abuse. Just like being attracted to women doesn't mean you're a rapist. You can be, though. Also consumption of any kind of distrubing porn doesn't mean you actually want to do things you see in it in the real life. This is about the same principle like when people are watching action movies (which is an accepted kind of often very disturbing cinematography), most don't want to go around an…

> Also consumption of any kind of distrubing porn doesn't mean you actually want to do things you see in it in the real life. No, but it does mean you support the abuse necessary to produce it.

>it does mean you support the abuse necessary to produce it.

No. If I download old files through I2PSnark - this does not mean that CP will be produced in greater quantities.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by didntcheck »

Semaphor wrote: post #456
ljm wrote: post #404

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tl;dr if you want your network to be private, maybe don’t pay a saas to do it. Your ISP already tracks ingress and egress.

My main adversary is my own ISP. VPNs are perfect for that. My secondary adversary are companies geoblocking content. VPNs are still perfect for that.

Which VPNs do you find effective for the second purpose? My small experience of using VPNs is that you just end up suffering from the poor reputation of your exit IPs, which rarely stay secret for long. So you end up blocked or at least frequently CAPTCHA'd on sites that wouldn't have blocked your own IP, and I imagine those that are doing geoblocking have a big blacklist of VPN IPs (I know BBC iPlayer does)
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