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Young people are flocking to astrology

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Re: Young people are flocking to astrology

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I like to think of Astrology (the way ancient India / subcontinent attempted it) as the largest and most ambitious big data analytics project. Whether they provided real results or just an illusion of it is up for debate. But some "actionable insights" were surely delivered :) Keeping records of many independent variables (time and place of birth, positions of "planets" at the time of birth, and their movement againt…

The only independent variable is the date and time of birth. The position of planets and their movements are highly correlated to this variable and won't provide any additional information. And yes, there has been plenty of research on the impact of the birth month, and the time of birth within given day, on a person's development through life.

Similarly, there is evidence and research which demonstrates the evidence that someone's name has pre-determined effects on that persons life; especially in the case of their career or what they are known for. Most surprisingly, even on the account that the individual didn't realize it until being told what their name meant!

Re: Young people are flocking to astrology

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The number of people in my life who have recently taken to astrology and started buying "healing" crystals is frankly disheartening. You try to argue with them they just call you toxic. I suspect it's a social virus.

If it makes them happy what's it matter?

Re: Young people are flocking to astrology

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It is so sad to see that despite being the most educated generation in history, there still seems to be a need for supernatural meaning in young people's lives.

It's so sad that we still have imagination and a sense of magic in this universe? Oh the travesty.

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There are epigenetic markers which can identify the season or perhaps even month you were born. If you might think there is a link between personality and birth order and that perhaps metaphor is useful in storytelling or group dynamics … then one could loosely link these concepts together and consider it more than something like a party trick.

If there are such markers, the flaw in astrology is not taking into account the hemisphere. Someone born in July would be born in summer in the northern hemisphere but winter in the south, so they can't possibly have been exposed to the same environmental factors growing up.

But they're exposed to the alignment of the celestial spheres in relation to the Earth the same way. Imagine if the celestial spheres have a particular electromagnetic relationship with the Earth, this dynamic nature is a type of 'song' if you will. That song becomes imprinted. That's one way I've come to understand these views. Then you actually have some semi-modern approaches to the music of the celestial spheres and the orbital resonances being similar to musical intervals.

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I dislike Apple as well, but judging people just because they work with their software stack is... inappropriate? May I ask how you make a living in modern society? Lots of people contribute to walled gardens to produce the food you eat. Heck, the constructor of your roof literally contributed to your walled garden... I don't think anyone has a choice, unless you go back 10,000 years and live like a hunter gatherer..…

> Lots of people contribute to walled gardens to produce the food you eat. Heck, the constructor of your roof literally contributed to your walled garden...

I don't think you know what walled garden means in software context.

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Young people are also flocking to Taylor Swift. Doesn't mean much other than young people flock to fads. Well, everybody does but especially young people.

This seems a pretty unfair comparison. Taylor Swift is a musical artist and creates art for people’s enjoyment.

Astrology is a long-running grift that has defrauded society’s easily exploited; mostly women.

They’re just not the same.

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The challenge with books like The God Delusion is that it's barely one step above strawman arguments. It attacks claims made by some simple lay people, based on their half-baked understanding of their own faiths (which they never really dug into). However, people well versed in the religion don't actually make any such claims. The arguments being debunked are ones that religious scholars themselves would have disagre…

Very few real world practitioners of these religions would recognize “religious scholars” or “academic experts” as being authoritative arbiters of their religious beliefs.

And atheists don't generally recognise Richard Dawkins as the arbiter of their beliefs either.

If someone were to attack the arguments for atheism in good faith I would hope they would fight its strongest arguments and not just tackle a hack like Dawkins. I'd like to extend the arguments for God the same courtesy.

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It's more and more difficult to detect sarcasm these days but in case you are serious yes, we all treat people differently based on their looks, and it happens especially in sexual relationships and is not limited to humans.

All female software devs reading this just got extremely uncomfortable, and this comment chain no doubt brings up childhood body image issues — issues that men can’t know what it’s like. I point this out from the sidelines in case any thoughtful devs reading this might want to reflect on their behavior. It wasn’t till I married one that I started to reevaluate mine.

>childhood body image issues — issues that men can’t know what it’s like.

Excuse me? Men have their own flavor of stereotypical body images foisted upon them: Macho, six-packs, muscular arms, upside-down triangular back, etc.

For what it's worth though, men seem to care significantly less about body image than women do. Food for thought.

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