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I'm pretty sure working harder , when done haphazardly, will worsen things
This is silly. How can you possibly make such a sweeping statement? How can you possibly believe 7 billion people would feverishly begin working towards something with no sense of plan or intentionally?
Do we have sea temperature data from before 1982? Like, thousands of years'?
We have reasonably accurate sea surface temperature data from 1945 to present, about 78 years. We have less accurate measurements back to the 1880s. Finally, we have proxy records going back thousands of years, based on isotope fractionation ratios and other paleoclimate data.
Especially Figure 2 on that page, a map showing the change in Sea Surface Temperature, was interesting.
Do you have more information on what changed around 1945? (I mean, I could probably guess. I was wondering if you're looking at different sources than I am.)
Do we have sea temperature data from before 1982? Like, thousands of years'?
We have reasonably accurate sea surface temperature data from 1945 to present, about 78 years. We have less accurate measurements back to the 1880s. Finally, we have proxy records going back thousands of years, based on isotope fractionation ratios and other paleoclimate data.
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Do what, exactly?
I'll bite. For start - stop fossil fuels in transport & energy, minimize plastic production - stop subsidizing meat & dairy, reform agriculture (pollution, eutrophication, soils) - reforest / rewild pastures, stop overfishing (carbon capture, biodiversity) - degrowth & basic income, remove financial drivers of exponential growth (prevent repetition) ASAP everything, 2050 is too late.
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I'll bite. For start - stop fossil fuels in transport & energy, minimize plastic production - stop subsidizing meat & dairy, reform agriculture (pollution, eutrophication, soils) - reforest / rewild pastures, stop overfishing (carbon capture, biodiversity) - degrowth & basic income, remove financial drivers of exponential growth (prevent repetition) ASAP everything, 2050 is too late.
so we go back to the caves then.
One option is much better than the other.
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I'll bite. For start - stop fossil fuels in transport & energy, minimize plastic production - stop subsidizing meat & dairy, reform agriculture (pollution, eutrophication, soils) - reforest / rewild pastures, stop overfishing (carbon capture, biodiversity) - degrowth & basic income, remove financial drivers of exponential growth (prevent repetition) ASAP everything, 2050 is too late.
so we go back to the caves then.
The tyrants always sell themselves as the answer to the apocalypse. Everyone you know is going to die. Society is always heading towards multiple kinds of total destruction. Anyone who uses that to try to take control of us is a tyrant. We shouldn’t sacrifice society at the feet of fear, especially to the very people in charge of the factories and industries causing the problems.
I don’t deny global warming. But I don’t believe the people claiming to have the answers and I’m not willing to follow Hitler logic to take people back to the Stone Age as the “solution” to the problem because I read books (and you shouldn’t either).
But I guarantee you others will put this forward as the “inevitable logic” or “nature will do it for us if we don’t sacrifice everything” as if technology has done nothing and we can’t possibly come back into balance with nature without utterly obliterating human civilization. It’s actually kind of batshit.
Nuclear anyone? No?
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Honestly this is the thing that scares me the most, for non-trivia portion of the population the apocalypse isn't necessarily something to avoid, its almost equivalent to their "endgame".