I was assigned Libra at birth but identify as Gemini. It’s infuriating how many of these young people refuse to accept my sign.
Young people are flocking to astrology
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#252My star sign is POSIX and my horoscope is HN.
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#253I had an argument with a girl the other day who was adamant she wanted to know my star sign. I said "you tell me" and after 10 guesses I finally told her. She then went on to tell me what I must like etc - most of which was complete bollocks obviously. I told her her beliefs were akin to racism. Just because of when I was born she thought it was acceptable not to bother to treat me as an individual but as automatical…
As the saying goes, “all models are wrong, some models are useful” While the astrology “model” is obviously wrong, it must have been useful to someone at sometime for it to have gained such a popularity. Like the “flat earth model” is actually extremely useful if you don’t intend (can’t) travel significant distances - gives you a coordinate system, maps and ways to predict where you’re going to be tomorrow if you tra…
"it must have been useful to someone at sometime for it to have gained such a popularity."
Cui prodest? = Who profits?
Scams are useful to the person who makes money off them, too.
Don't forget that for some people, astrology has been a profession. In history and today.
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#254the reason this is happening is science and rational thinking has really let them down in their lifetime, especially during the pandemic. they (and people in general) dont know what is real anymore, what to believe any more when everyone seems to be making up things as they go along, especially the so-called experts. why not review everything they have access to but told by the experts not to pay attention? ie they w…
Maybe you are right. I still belive in science but stopped trusting anything experts say unless majority have the same opinion. Politics ruining scientific community I belive
" stopped trusting anything experts say unless majority have the same opinion"
I wonder what Copernicus would have to say about that
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I have arguments over this all the time when going on dates. Since the pandemic the topic astrology came up a lot more though, I don't know why. Now I just go with it and show fake interest, makes it way easier. Ofcourse the whole time I'm thinking about ending myself rather than hearing this bs but at least they don't go batshit crazy on me(hitting me sometimes even) and calling me stupid for not trusting it. Clear…
Can't you add no astrology to your dating profile? That should filter them out. Assuming the process starts online.
That probably depends on his goal in dating: does he want a long-term partner or some companionship for the evening?
Adding "no astrology" to his profile may very well result in him getting almost no dates, depending on his demographic and location. Sounds like this craziness is really popular in some places among some circles.
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While I agree that astrology is complete nonsense, you're not likely to win many people over when you treat stereotyping (which you've described here) and racism as equivalent.
I don’t think astrology is stereotyping, it’s completely made up, not just an oversimplification or over generalization.
The main difference is the history of genocide and slavery associated with racism.
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#257One of my favorite philosophy books is A Secular Age by Charles Taylor. It has a lot of interesting ideas, but a key one is that the “subtraction thesis” of secularity is wrong. By this, he means the narrative that secular society today simply “subtracted” religious beliefs and behaviors of yesteryear. Instead, these things have just morphed into different forms, with astrology being a prime example. It can be unders…
Just take cult of Stalin, Mao and Kims. Perfect examples.
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> half my female friends and all my gay friends love astrology That's about exactly my experience. Half my female friends (and about as many on dating platforms), and about three in four of my gay friends. Not a single straight guy ever talks to me about star signs.
The star signs for straight guys are the stock market prediction lines.
MBTI
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> is very intelligent but she's really into this stuff. I was working on an astrology widget for a portal site, and read every advice in it every sign for months at lengths. None of the advice were ever highly impacting, nor seemed to have a chance to bring problematic results. At best it felt like a nice way to get some variety into someone's life ("wear something green today to improve your luck") In that light, I…
The problem is they often make statements that A should be careful around B and avoid serious decisions this week . They can literally model the behavior of a significant amount of population for a week. It may sound funny until you realize that B is you and A is HR who loves that shit.
You're right in that this could be problematic to emit such an advice, but I am optimistic in that the writers tend to avoid such a direct framing. It will be more around "pay special attention to the serious decisions comming this week".
An actual example: https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/horoscope/taurus/daily-20230...
> You get some weird news early on that leaves you feeling kind of funky for most of the day, but it's not all bad! You know deep down that things are right where they're supposed to be.
You won't get anything that leads to direct action from these tidbits of non-comited vagueness.
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I don’t think astrology is stereotyping, it’s completely made up, not just an oversimplification or over generalization.
Maybe we're getting into the unproductive game of definitions, but perhaps stereotyping is still stereotyping when the categories are completely made up. After all, stereotyping implies incorrect categories. Otherwise it would be called classification.
Getting deeper into semantics, I have always understood stereotypes to be an essentially correct general average. Then of course people are so different that the average for a group fits no person in the group more than perhaps 30% so it always ends up being wrong when applied without thought.
But the general stereotype is not “completely made up” so to speak, it’s an observed average.
Then of course some total crap is always thrown in the mix but still.