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Young people are flocking to astrology

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Re: Young people are flocking to astrology

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My guru (I'm Indian) was an astrologer. Every time Mars goes retrograde I tell people "astrology is nonsense, but this Mars retrograde thing gets me every time..." and surely enough, every time... I was raised on Karl Popper and Thomas Kuhn. There can't be anything to it. It has to be nonsense. December 06 2024 is the next Mars retrograde. See if things don't go completely to hell right around then.

Well now you’ve jinxed it for sure!

Re: Young people are flocking to astrology

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Astrology more than those things seems to be used as a sideways tool for introspection and self-knowledge. And is clearly an attempt to connect to the transcendental, the divine, the unknowable, why are we here and what am I meant to do with myself, etc. Both of those pursuits are worthy of curiosity and respect. And astrology itself is an ancient practice, few traditions are that long-lived at all and certainly not…

I don't think there's any value in astrology. The fact that people believed in it (and still do) for a very long time doesn't change that, as humanity has had many long-standing beliefs that turned out to be entirely wrong (e.g. geocentrism, that there was something particular about biochemistry that couldn't be recreated synthetically, aether, ...). The fact that it may serve a certain psychological function means t…

You ever flip a coin to decide something for yourself, then do the opposite of how it fell? In tossing the coin you learn something about what you actually want to do. Was there value in flipping the coin?

A very complex version of this is basically how I view astrology.

Re: Young people are flocking to astrology

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My guru (I'm Indian) was an astrologer. Every time Mars goes retrograde I tell people "astrology is nonsense, but this Mars retrograde thing gets me every time..." and surely enough, every time... I was raised on Karl Popper and Thomas Kuhn. There can't be anything to it. It has to be nonsense. December 06 2024 is the next Mars retrograde. See if things don't go completely to hell right around then.

Well now you’ve jinxed it for sure!

Apparently nobody got my election humour!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidentia...

Re: Young people are flocking to astrology

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post #11

Well, there's astrology and astrology. The newspaper astrology that is so broad you can't take it seriously. Then there's the birth horoscope z the natal chart and whatever which is, believe it or not, more accurate. Astrology is also the oldest form of psychology, it's easily accessible and popular because of it. Why would certain planet not represent certain traits? Who has really studied it scientifically? There's…

> Better astrology than religion.

Well, there's religion and religion.

Re: Young people are flocking to astrology

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post #11

Well, there's astrology and astrology. The newspaper astrology that is so broad you can't take it seriously. Then there's the birth horoscope z the natal chart and whatever which is, believe it or not, more accurate. Astrology is also the oldest form of psychology, it's easily accessible and popular because of it. Why would certain planet not represent certain traits? Who has really studied it scientifically? There's…

> We want to explain the world, learn about it, about ourself. Better astrology than religion.

Lol yeah, why seek community, like-minded individuals, or deep conversations about morality when you can sit alone in your room and have an app subscription tell you how you’re supposed to feel that day?

Re: Young people are flocking to astrology

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My girlfriend is in the middle of her PhD program and is very intelligent but she's really into this stuff. She makes comments about it in public and I cringe. But the worst part is that half my female friends and all my gay friends love astrology. It's very weird.

Re: Young people are flocking to astrology

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Quote: Nahua philosophers saw humans as creatures yearning for rootedness — i.e. for a deep, firm, and lasting anchoring for their lives — and who restlessly search for it. Obtaining well-rootedness enables one to become an “upright man” (tlacamelahuac, trans. by Lopez Austin 1988:I,p.189) and to live a balanced, pure, and genuinely human life. Without roots, one finds neither balance, purity, nor humanness. Obtaining well-rootedness is difficult, and in their search many humans give their hearts to what appears to be well-rooted and authenthic but is not. Since this cannot provide grounding and stability, humans eventually become dissatisfied with it and abandon it, only to begin their search anew, often times repeating the process over and over again. Their hearts eventually become scattered, unbalanced, and lost (Lopez Austin 1988:II, Appendix 5). As Nezahualcoyotl put it, “If you give your heart to each and everything, you lead it nowhere: you destroy your heart” (Cantares mexicanos fol.2, v., trans. by Leon-Portilla 1963:5). Such humans become vagabonds, wandering about aimlessly from one illusion to the next. They become beastly, unstable, unbalanced, impure, perverse, dull-witted, intemperate, and vicious. They fail to realize their humanness and merely appear to be human. They become deceivers, rogues, and dissimulators. They “act on things with [their] humanity dead” (Lopez Austin 1988:I,p.189). They are “lump[s] of flesh with two eyes” (Sahagun 1953-82:X,pp.3,11) and “defective human weight[s]” (Sahagun 1953-82:X,p.11, trans. by Lopez Austin 1988:II,p.271).

Re: Young people are flocking to astrology

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Well, there's astrology and astrology. The newspaper astrology that is so broad you can't take it seriously. Then there's the birth horoscope z the natal chart and whatever which is, believe it or not, more accurate. Astrology is also the oldest form of psychology, it's easily accessible and popular because of it. Why would certain planet not represent certain traits? Who has really studied it scientifically? There's…

I was in high school in the early 90s and no young people I knew were into this. Our boomer ex-hippie parents were into it and we made fun of it hard.

Went to highschool a decade after you and also didn't know anyone into this. I know one person today who is.
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