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All foster kids in California can now attend any state college for free

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Re: All foster kids in California can now attend any state college for free

#31
It's odd that many of the same people cheering this decision are the same ones crying for meritocracy in the workplace.

Handouts and free passes as long as you're characterized by $some_immutable_trait? Then don't be upset when you're passed over for a promotion to fulfill a company diversity promotion threshold.

Re: All foster kids in California can now attend any state college for free

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post #22

I hate Newsom but I think this is a good idea. Education and support should be 100% free for those in the more difficult economic situations.

I don’t agree. My parents are low middle class. We didn’t qualify for any financial aid and they were tasked with trying to find a way to send both my sister and I to college which they couldn’t afford. So what did we do? Take out a bunch of loans. Good thing I got a decent job that can pay for them. Too bad for my sister who had a masters and is making $35k as a teacher in Tennessee which is barely more than minimum…

> my sister who had a masters and is making $35k as a teacher Tennessee

If it's a public school, those loans should begin falling off after five years and be forgiven after ten [1].

[1] https://www.forbes.com/advisor/student-loans/teacher-student...

Re: All foster kids in California can now attend any state college for free

#34

64% of foster youth graduating high school is far far higher than I thought it would be. I’m beyond delighted by this. And if that 64% has free access to post-secondary… that’s a cycle breaking opportunity.

I wonder how many non-foster kids graduate high school?

Re: All foster kids in California can now attend any state college for free

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post #27

This is what affirmative action should be... helping people out based on their individual situation, not because their skin color or gender.

Are you commenting on not comment on things that would to apply to you? It can be easy to say what’s good for another and how to solve them when their problems aren’t ones you have grown up or lived through.

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Re: All foster kids in California can now attend any state college for free

#36

This is what affirmative action should be... helping people out based on their individual situation, not because their skin color or gender.

I do not understand why it should be limited to foster kids.

Just make the schools free for all, and collect with higher marginal income / wealth taxes.

It should not be dependent on parents’ status either. I got zero aid due to my parents, but I also got zero from my parents.

Re: All foster kids in California can now attend any state college for free

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I think this is a good idea. That is the first time in a long time I have thought "wow, the state is doing something useful with my tax dollars"

also free lunches in schools https://www.nycfoodpolicy.org/states-that-have-passed-univer...

I love this policy. If it's free then no-one brings their own, and no-one is looked down at.

BUT... I checked the menu of a school where I used to live...

Pizza, hot dogs, fries... We can make the most delicious vegetables, roasted, ...

And they get carbs. Nutrition taken from nature decomposed in its elemental components put back together for the perfect addictive meal...

Re: All foster kids in California can now attend any state college for free

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Making college free regardless of academic preparation (the article does not mention any) is a bad idea. Where does it say that acceptance is guaranteed?

Community colleges are included in the program. This seems to be a part of a guaranteed jobs program. Wish we were moving to a basic income program but I'm convinced that we will need one or the other or some combination of the two. Jobs at a community college would be ideal to replace some of the early jobs that would be eliminated by AI.

As I understand it, faculty positions at community colleges usually require graduate degrees and tend to have many applicants for few slots.

I don't expect that community colleges will be greatly increasing their faculty sizes.

Re: All foster kids in California can now attend any state college for free

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Remedial classes help bring students up to speed without slowing down students who performed better in high school. It’s always been true that not every student who graduates High School received the same education as their peers who went to a different school. Being behind doesn’t not necessarily mean you’re bound for a doomed college experience.

Students grow up a lot during their college years, and part of that growing up is recognizing this is the time in your life to work hard because it may be your last opportunity to get a quality education.

The students that don’t take advantage of it will drop out, the students that do will have been given an opportunity they otherwise wouldn’t have. It’s all around a good thing to give students more opportunities and let them decide if it’s right for themselves.

Re: All foster kids in California can now attend any state college for free

#40

This is what affirmative action should be... helping people out based on their individual situation, not because their skin color or gender.

> what affirmative action should be... helping people out based on their individual situation Also, just helping them out. Nobody gets hurt. This isn't creating an allotment of seats for foster kids. The selection process, and thus odds, are the same for them and everyone else.

Generally state colleges will take any applicant who meets the pre-set bar. Where as tier 1 universities are more a zero sum game.
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