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Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Cuties controversy was only about some versions of the poster, and no one involved saw the movie. No one who watched the movie thought it was super controversial I think.

https://www.parentstv.org/blog/how-does-a-film-critic-justif... These guys did: As for Netflix, how can the company possibly reconcile a “coming-of-age” film, and one that centers entirely on 11-year-old girls, with a TV-MA rating? This is not a random decision – it has become corporate practice. We have frequently called on Netflix to stop hosting content that sexualizes children, such as Baby, Big Mouth, Sex Educat…

Did they watch it? I don't see anywhere where they said they actually watched it.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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The eternal struggle. Information wants to be free, and then people use those freedoms to do the most screwed up things imaginable, and people like this pay the price. It’s a damn shame how the original cyberpunk dream played out. We could’ve had a world where companies couldn’t do anything about people using their ideas. Instead we get one where you can’t even be anonymous without rubbing elbows with child predators…

>We could’ve had a world where companies couldn’t do anything about people using their ideas

doesn't sound like the best idea depending on what industry we are talking about. medicine, yes. Art, no (we're kinda going through that right now actually).

>In some sense cp is the ultimate test of anonymity, since you’ll be thrown in prison pretty much instantly if caught. So perhaps it’s no surprise that it’s the most common and pervasive result of anonymity, but it sure is a shame.

This quote constantly rings in my head about topics like this:

>The moral of the story is: if you’re against witch-hunts, and you promise to found your own little utopian community where witch-hunts will never happen, your new society will end up consisting of approximately three principled civil libertarians and seven zillion witches. It will be a terrible place to live even if witch-hunts are genuinely wrong.

It's the real downside of apathy when you see complaints about those big sites out there and how they screw up. You advertising a new site means the most interested are going to mostly include the worst actors, who eventually put off the best actors. Or at least disproportionately include them.

As a simple example: say Twitter has 10 million users and 1000 nazis (utopic, I know). Now your new no BS alternative attracts 0.1% of users but 10% Nazis. Still far from a majority. But by the way these forums work, your site will be 1% nazis, and those nazis will be some of your loudest actors if left unchecked. 100x more concentrated and it will feel some 1000x more nazi.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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> Looking at the scale of NordVPN they either already have a liason with aurhorities inside, or are hacked by authorities. Based on what? You just seem to be making a wild unsubstantiated conjecture here.

It's obviously an unsubstantiated statement, but given all the concrete information on the MOs of alphabet agencies, it seems like a reasonable bet. If they haven't done one of those things, they probably just haven't gotten around to it yet.

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Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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The eternal struggle. Information wants to be free, and then people use those freedoms to do the most screwed up things imaginable, and people like this pay the price. It’s a damn shame how the original cyberpunk dream played out. We could’ve had a world where companies couldn’t do anything about people using their ideas. Instead we get one where you can’t even be anonymous without rubbing elbows with child predators…

> Ultimately what drove me away was the literal flood of cp that was always right next to anything to do with tor, whonix, or anonymity in general. As a teen around 2003 I hosted a freenet-node (freenetproject.org). It generated 1TByte/month which I believe was a lot for the time. I shot it down and never came back, because the only things that ever loaded was cp and Chechnya rape and torture videos. Its not a networ…

It's the same thing with the old reddit alternatives. Very few people are actually going to bother purely for the sake of principles, so the alternatives end up flooded with the ones that are forced to alternatives for good reasons.

If the mainstream Internet banned "dissidents" I believe such things would have more uptake by other types of users.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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The eternal struggle. Information wants to be free, and then people use those freedoms to do the most screwed up things imaginable, and people like this pay the price. It’s a damn shame how the original cyberpunk dream played out. We could’ve had a world where companies couldn’t do anything about people using their ideas. Instead we get one where you can’t even be anonymous without rubbing elbows with child predators…

There are many, many pedophiles out there. I'm also convinced of a conspiracy theory that a lot of dark web traffic and hosts are created/operated by secret parts of the gov to de-legitimize the need for anonymity. I believe this because it would be too easy with the access to that material and no oversight. Just muddy the waters so nothing in there looks worth protecting.

Doesn't seem that much tinfoil hat to me. The Snowden leaks taught us that a bit of tinfoil hatting is reasonable. Before we had access to so many cop video footage, the ideas that they were the bad guys and did stuff like actually being the guys who attack and break stuff during protests were considered crazy. Etc, etc.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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> It’s a damn shame how the original cyberpunk dream played out. Isn't it more, "This is why the original cyberpunk dream was always a naive and bad idea"? Like, it appealed to me too when I was young, but then I learned more about humans and our history and ...

Since when was cyberpunk a dream to be pursued? It's the opposite of a naive dream. It's a nightmare full of high tech and people living on scraps, constantly trying to keep up with the tech fallout from big corporations. One of the most iconic places in cyberpunk was literally described as being "like a deranged experiment in social Darwinism, designed by a bored researcher who kept the thumb permantently on the fas…

really depends on your literature. Star Trek's interpretation of the future is very different from Dune's. Much of cyberpunk tends to be cynical but there are some more utopic interpretations out there as well.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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I wrote "he and others of his ilk". Just read the Wikipedia article on Incels for a list of violent incidents [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incel#Mass_murders_and_violenc...

Tate is an incel? "a member of an online community of young men who consider themselves unable to attract women sexually" I think Tate is going to be super surprised to learn that. Dude is many things, an incel is not one of them. Perhaps you have been caught up in the hysteria and are attributing things to him that he is not responsible for? I'm not a Tate fan and think he is probably not a good person but there has…

He's not an incel, but he specifically targets incels and the incel movement. Men who don't have any problems finding women they want to date aren't a suitable target for this kind of rhetoric.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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The eternal struggle. Information wants to be free, and then people use those freedoms to do the most screwed up things imaginable, and people like this pay the price. It’s a damn shame how the original cyberpunk dream played out. We could’ve had a world where companies couldn’t do anything about people using their ideas. Instead we get one where you can’t even be anonymous without rubbing elbows with child predators…

> Instead we get one where you can’t even be anonymous without rubbing elbows with child predators. There have been secretive child predators ever since statutory rape was invented. The reason that you didn't have to "rub elbows" with them is because our governments hadn't begun systematically closing off all avenues for anonymity other than the one that they built and maintain for their own spying. If there's only o…

>There have been secretive child predators ever since statutory rape was invented.

Sure, emphasis on secretive. I'd hope that 'secretive' on the internet would mean more secretive than mistyping a query on a popular site's search engine. Or simply wandering into a linked, public website. But alas.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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"especially when we offend" This is a fundamental premise of freedom of speech and a large reason as to why it exists. For some reason your comment was flagged, I vouched and voted it up.

I don't find that comment objectionable because it is in favour of freedom of speech, I find it objectionable because it pretends someone with multiple credible allegations of rape and associates who admit to using violence to incite women into sex crimes, who admitted to running illegal casinos and who says he moved to Romania because he doesn't have to follow the law is only in legal trouble because people disagree with his ideas and has done nothing illegal that would warrant charges.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Even Lolita from Nabokov? Because that book depicted that as joking about the reader and on male society in general, as there was no actual erotism on anything but the narrator's "mind"/protagonist. Similar on how people got Starship Troopers wrong. Is not about cheering fascism, but to ridicule it.

Have you actually read Starship Troopers? It isn’t exactly ridiculing facism.

I believe he is referring to the more widely known movie.
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