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Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Quite logical, same in France and likely many countries; if you run a Tor exit node (or any type of open proxy), you get visited by the police if someone does something wrong on your exit node. Otherwise what could happen is that you run a Tor node and use it as an excuse for any crime you do.

Couldn't you say the same for every coffee shop that gives random people Wi-Fi access?

In Germany this was an actual issue until recent years - you were strictly liable for what transited your network.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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> I was charged and convicted with the support, not the ownership. There is ownership, sale, distribution for no monetary gain, and support of general distribution. The last is what I got and the lowest of all.

Did they also charge the ISP's involved in transferring those network packets?

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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The eternal struggle. Information wants to be free, and then people use those freedoms to do the most screwed up things imaginable, and people like this pay the price. It’s a damn shame how the original cyberpunk dream played out. We could’ve had a world where companies couldn’t do anything about people using their ideas. Instead we get one where you can’t even be anonymous without rubbing elbows with child predators…

> It’s a damn shame how the original cyberpunk dream played out. Isn't it more, "This is why the original cyberpunk dream was always a naive and bad idea"? Like, it appealed to me too when I was young, but then I learned more about humans and our history and ...

Since when was cyberpunk a dream to be pursued? It's the opposite of a naive dream. It's a nightmare full of high tech and people living on scraps, constantly trying to keep up with the tech fallout from big corporations. One of the most iconic places in cyberpunk was literally described as being "like a deranged experiment in social Darwinism, designed by a bored researcher who kept the thumb permantently on the fast-forward button."

How is this appealing? It's a warning, not a cosy idea to aspire to!

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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It is not without debate: * https://digitalcommons.schulichlaw.dal.ca/djls/vol25/iss1/2/ And as my updated/edited comment mention, Canada is not unique in this regard: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_child_pornography * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_fictional_porn... Going back to Canada, some cases: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_pornography_laws_in_Cana... * https://en.wikipedia.o…

I'm sort of confused by these rulings. So people got convicted for possessing loli manga/similar stuff that has no relation to real life at all. I understand that it can be illegal at the State level, and that its a grey area at the federal level. What I don't get is the disconnect between these rulings and whatever is available on the clearnet. We're not talking onion sites. Reddit, Twitter, 4chan, pixv, tumblr, Pat…

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Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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The eternal struggle. Information wants to be free, and then people use those freedoms to do the most screwed up things imaginable, and people like this pay the price. It’s a damn shame how the original cyberpunk dream played out. We could’ve had a world where companies couldn’t do anything about people using their ideas. Instead we get one where you can’t even be anonymous without rubbing elbows with child predators…

> back then it wasn’t clear that we’d ever be able to have maps at our fingertips regardless of internet access.

Offline map databases were commom then; it wasn't uncommon for car navigation systems to come with them (expensive to update, though), as well as handheld devices

In fact, while they were not common before the 2000s, first-party navigation systems with offline digital maps for cars have been around at least since the 1980s, as have other forms of consumer offline digital maps. Online maps are newer than offline.

> This was back in the era of that poor CNET reporter that got lost with his family in the mountains precisely because of no maps

The last of many critical errors before the car got stuck might have been avoided by using a map, but they had and used a paper map shortly before, when choosing the alternate route that was, in fact, closed; it wasn't a problem caused by maps not being available (and there is a reason keeping paper road maps, especially of unfamiliar areas, when driving in them was a widespread practice until digital maps with automatic offline downloads tied to GPS became ubiquitous.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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> Similar on how people got Starship Troopers wrong. Is not about cheering fascism, but to ridicule it. Well - the film also had a disconnect with the book on the topic of fascism. The book was more on the pro-fascism side.

I still can't decide if it was just a bad movie or satire by someone that didn't quite get how satire works.

It was satire by someone who absolutely understands how satire works. Starship Troopers, the film, is brilliant.

The same director did Robocop, and if you don't get the genius satire of that, then I can't help you.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Even then there were lots of apps out there which provided maps offline before Google maps was even an idea. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Streets_%26_Trips https://winworldpc.com/product/softkey-key-master-maps/10 And then that's also completely ignoring the hundreds of portable GPS devices sold before Google Maps was a thing which had offline road databases. I can navigate anonymously without cell signa…

> I can navigate anonymously without cell signal easily. My car has a GPS in the dashboard which, at least for the maps and routing, doesn't go online at all. I agree that this is indeed possible. The problem is with the propaganda that says that you should not agree to such a low standard of only being able to see the map and route your trip based on road connectivity and nothing else. Modern route planning takes in…

>I agree that this is indeed possible. The problem is with the propaganda that says that you should not agree to such a low standard of only being able to see the map and route your trip based on road connectivity and nothing else. Modern route planning takes into account inherently real-time information such as accidents and other roadblocks, which is only available online.

I'd note that while real time traffic updates are nice, they are just a convenience, not a necessity.

In fact, GPS (unless you're in a war zone and need to direct munitions or out in the middle of nowhere) is also a convenience and not a necessity. What's that? It is a necessity? Tell that to Ferdinand Magellan -- hell he didn't even have a paper map.

That's not to say GPS/online traffic updates and the like aren't useful. They absolutely are. But they aren't necessary and at least for me, if the choice is to use such tools and be tracked or use another method that doesn't track me, I'll choose the latter every. single. time.

Not because I have anything to hide, but because my business is my business and no one else's.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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So he as guns in his bedroom and 3 more guns in his safe along with a machete (all apparently legal). Not in Mollenbeek or northeastern Paris, but near Graz. Just your typical guy then. Running TOR exits are a noble thing to do but people like this damage TOR's reputation. And while there doesn't seem to be proof he intentionally got involved in CP, a smart pedophile probably would set up an exit node just for plausi…

Anyone actually viewing CP would likely have traces of it on their computer. Just running an exit node isn't going to save you.

I'd imagine someone that savvy is familiar with encrypted VMs etc. or maybe just hiding their computer.
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