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Fossil shows mammal sinking teeth into dinosaur

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Re: Fossil shows mammal sinking teeth into dinosaur

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Post by Etrnl_President »

zgluck wrote: post #4
23B1 wrote: post #2

But Brusatte said there remained some legitimate concerns about the integrity of the fossil. “There have been doctored fossils from this part of the world before, and the scientists did not dig up this specimen themselves. The skeletons are no doubt genuine, but I suppose the poses of the bones could have been altered, although I have no direct evidence for this,” he said. The downstream effects of a post-truth post-…

"There have been doctored fossils from this part of the world before" - so, he obviously means "from China". This kind of etiquette is weird. (And of course I pretty immediately felt the voting feedback on why. So much pride in a dictatorship; that is also weird.)

Best China > West China

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Post by Kamq »

23B1 wrote: post #2

But Brusatte said there remained some legitimate concerns about the integrity of the fossil. “There have been doctored fossils from this part of the world before, and the scientists did not dig up this specimen themselves. The skeletons are no doubt genuine, but I suppose the poses of the bones could have been altered, although I have no direct evidence for this,” he said. The downstream effects of a post-truth post-…

> The downstream effects of a post-truth post-trust era.

All this era has shown us, is that we should never have been relying on trust in anything even close to science. Trusting people to put the truth their own career advancement is how we got into this mess with the replication crisis.

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Post by earthbee »

23B1 wrote: post #2

But Brusatte said there remained some legitimate concerns about the integrity of the fossil. “There have been doctored fossils from this part of the world before, and the scientists did not dig up this specimen themselves. The skeletons are no doubt genuine, but I suppose the poses of the bones could have been altered, although I have no direct evidence for this,” he said. The downstream effects of a post-truth post-…

It's not exactly a new phenomenon. https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/archaeology/g3051/f...

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Post by ecf »

In my opinion, it’s more likely that the mammal climbed the carcass to access meat that larger mammals already consumed from the ground level. Zero chance something this small is actively trying to take down prey as large as this.

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earthbee wrote: post #14
23B1 wrote: post #2

But Brusatte said there remained some legitimate concerns about the integrity of the fossil. “There have been doctored fossils from this part of the world before, and the scientists did not dig up this specimen themselves. The skeletons are no doubt genuine, but I suppose the poses of the bones could have been altered, although I have no direct evidence for this,” he said. The downstream effects of a post-truth post-…

It's not exactly a new phenomenon. https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/archaeology/g3051/f...

Ah okay I feel better then.

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Post by blueflow »

steve_adams_86 wrote: post #9
jameshart wrote: post #6

Seems dangerous to infer too much about the general behavior of entire species based on the observed behavior captured in two individuals at the moment they were being entombed in the lava flow from a volcanic eruption. Like assuming that based on some skeletons found under a volcanic ash flow that the normal behavior of humans was running with your hands in the air and screaming really loudly.

This single group of humans almost always assumed the fetal position. Fortunately we were able to get a glimpse of this because they were captured in a lava flow. We may never know why they did that.

Its the position you assume when in extreme pain.

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Post by Waterluvian »

jameshart wrote: post #6

Seems dangerous to infer too much about the general behavior of entire species based on the observed behavior captured in two individuals at the moment they were being entombed in the lava flow from a volcanic eruption. Like assuming that based on some skeletons found under a volcanic ash flow that the normal behavior of humans was running with your hands in the air and screaming really loudly.

This drives me mad about these sciences. They seemingly get captured by the PR need to sell a digestible narrative.

I appreciate if they want to posit ideas, but so often there’s this tone of absoluteness to them.

I wonder if part of it is just the desire to make one’s discipline more exciting.

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