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Re: Government URLs that don't end in .gov

#31

We need a government root CA more than a government TLD. Domain names aren't even the only thing we should attest.

This sounds like a decent idea until you realize that means one of two options: - A US Government controlled CA root preinstalled on computers. Privacy advocates would be in arms. - Constant untrusted CA warnings when trying to access any government site.

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Re: Government URLs that don't end in .gov

#32

I think it's particularly interesting that the US use .gov and not .gov.us (as a Brit). I'm sure there are oversights on who can acquire an inherently international .gov domain, but for example here in the UK .gov.uk domains have a strict application process [0] managed by central government. It just seems to me that it would be more secure, and more reassuring to citizens and visitors that they are on the correct si…

https://www.quora.com/Why-doesnt-the-United-Kingdom-have-the...

Re: Government URLs that don't end in .gov

#33
post #21

Always found it arbitrary that .gov is only for use by the US.

Had another country had a primary role in inventing the internet, they would probably have it (or more likely, the US would be .gov.us and everyone else would be whatever they are today).

CERN / Switzerland would like a word

Re: Government URLs that don't end in .gov

#34

We need a government root CA more than a government TLD. Domain names aren't even the only thing we should attest.

This sounds like a decent idea until you realize that means one of two options: - A US Government controlled CA root preinstalled on computers. Privacy advocates would be in arms. - Constant untrusted CA warnings when trying to access any government site.

Root CAs can be configured to only attest certain TLDs (in this case .gov) via X509v3 Name Constraint.

This is how dn42 does it: https://dn42.dev/services/Certificate-Authority.md

Re: Government URLs that don't end in .gov

#35
post #6

We need a government root CA more than a government TLD. Domain names aren't even the only thing we should attest.

It's unlikely for a scammer to get a gov domain.

Define unlikely? https://www.pcmag.com/news/its-now-a-bit-harder-to-register-...

Because it was possible, maybe better now!

Re: Government URLs that don't end in .gov

#36
post #12

I got an official email from New York State's Office Of The Comptroller with a link to osc.state.ny.us. It came from an email address @osc.ny.gov. I don't understand why they couldn't use an official TLD in the URL too.

I saw a similar problem at dhs. The contractors who run email & office software don’t talk with the contractors who run their web presence, on two completely separate domains. Lots of US gov orgs use way too many contracts instead of staff.

Re: Government URLs that don't end in .gov

#37
I went through the process of registering a .gov domain recently and it definitely takes a couple of months. It requires a letter of intent, wet signatures from elected official(s) on official letterhead, a phone call to a publicly listed number of an elected official, 2FA enrollment for the management of DNS/WHOIS, and a period of time in between some of these steps for some behind-the-scenes verification to take place. Despite the many steps, I did find it relatively straightforward and appropriate given the exclusivity of the TLD. In fact, the most difficult part (that I'm still working through) is convincing management that we should make the full migration to the .gov now that we have it registered...

Re: Government URLs that don't end in .gov

#38

We need a government root CA more than a government TLD. Domain names aren't even the only thing we should attest.

This sounds like a decent idea until you realize that means one of two options: - A US Government controlled CA root preinstalled on computers. Privacy advocates would be in arms. - Constant untrusted CA warnings when trying to access any government site.

What about a "root" CA only capable of signing .gov certificates?

Re: Government URLs that don't end in .gov

#39

I think it's particularly interesting that the US use .gov and not .gov.us (as a Brit). I'm sure there are oversights on who can acquire an inherently international .gov domain, but for example here in the UK .gov.uk domains have a strict application process [0] managed by central government. It just seems to me that it would be more secure, and more reassuring to citizens and visitors that they are on the correct si…

"turns out .gov is exclusively for the US, not sure I feel good about that, particularly as .com and .net are very much not just for the US.

I get it, you invented the internet, but the special status you have over it is a little frustrating."

I bet America having +1 as our country code bothers you too :P

America numba 1! /S

Re: Government URLs that don't end in .gov

#40

I think it's particularly interesting that the US use .gov and not .gov.us (as a Brit). I'm sure there are oversights on who can acquire an inherently international .gov domain, but for example here in the UK .gov.uk domains have a strict application process [0] managed by central government. It just seems to me that it would be more secure, and more reassuring to citizens and visitors that they are on the correct si…

Do .gov's have to be renewed every year with ICANN?

What if a dept lets theirs lapse and some squatter swoops in and takes it?

We'll start the bidding at $1B USD...

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