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A Caltech Nobel laureate celebrates his 100th birthday, then gets back to work

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If I go cut trees in the forest, it'll just be for the money, because I like computers and sitting down. For someone that loves physical exercise and the outdoors, and has an appreciation for falling trees, it'll be their passion. I can describe a situation where I decide to not cut trees if I don't need the money without passing judgement on others that do it for love. Assuming they are connected was your mistake. I…

EDIT : I found the message about being beyond money to be patronizing, but I regret that I couched my comment in a way that was not charitable. Hence this edit.

Not really, I can see why you see it that way but I don't. The guy shared his path in life which was similar but then diverged, gave reasons why, seemed genuine. Was an interesting anecdote to me.

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I didn't. In fact a close reading of their comment suggests that they are not. Why did you assume I assumed that instead of asking: "Do you believe the poster above you is in it for the money?"? And given this comment of yours: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36589357 I find it curious that you would project that onto others.

Your comment is entirely centered around money and how, since you have enough, you will not bother with startup stuff. You are mistaken about why people create startups, and I do believe you missed that this is not the reason the top poster is knee deep in a startup at 65, otherwise you would not have made the comparison, or you would have acknowledged the situation was different. In a way, you tried to one up the to…

I think it is you that is focused on the money. I merely wanted to illustrate that money is no longer a driving force for me, without any relation as to whether or not the GP was doing what they were doing was for the money. Since they indicated that what they were doing was by choice, not out of need I assume that they weren't in it for the money but I'd rather let them speak for themselves.

The reason why I said that I'm not motivated to do another start up and I clearly indicated that for me making a living always was only a partial drive, the other one being that I like interesting tech, is that my health is failing me in many different ways and I don't have the energy for that level of engagement any more. So I consider myself very lucky that I don't have to do any of this. Though, if something really interesting rolls around (a few months ago that nearly happened) I would be sorely tempted but would probably still refuse. Because I know the price of running a start-up isn't measured in dollars but in time and stress.

Finally: you are putting a lot of words in my mouth and thoughts in my head and making all kinds of statements about me. You probably would do better if you asked questions instead of making all kinds of weird inferences.

Re: A Caltech Nobel laureate celebrates his 100th birthday, then gets back to work

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Your comment is entirely centered around money and how, since you have enough, you will not bother with startup stuff. You are mistaken about why people create startups, and I do believe you missed that this is not the reason the top poster is knee deep in a startup at 65, otherwise you would not have made the comparison, or you would have acknowledged the situation was different. In a way, you tried to one up the to…

I think it is you that is focused on the money. I merely wanted to illustrate that money is no longer a driving force for me, without any relation as to whether or not the GP was doing what they were doing was for the money. Since they indicated that what they were doing was by choice, not out of need I assume that they weren't in it for the money but I'd rather let them speak for themselves. The reason why I said th…

I’ll be frank, I read your message carefully and I am stil pretty confident about the inferences I made. However, I see your point, my statements are too forceful. I acknowledge that I should have been more graceful and phrased them as questions. Thank you for the advice. Furthermore, I am sorry to hear about your health and I hope there’s a way for things to get better for you in the future.

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I feel like one of the secrets to living longer is to have a reason to get up every day, a purpose to fulfill in life. And this guy certainly has one.

Look up Blue Zone groups. Researchers study groups of people that live the longest and how they live. Of course diet and exercise is a big component, but a reason to live is another. There are other interesting factors as well.

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I think it is you that is focused on the money. I merely wanted to illustrate that money is no longer a driving force for me, without any relation as to whether or not the GP was doing what they were doing was for the money. Since they indicated that what they were doing was by choice, not out of need I assume that they weren't in it for the money but I'd rather let them speak for themselves. The reason why I said th…

I’ll be frank, I read your message carefully and I am stil pretty confident about the inferences I made. However, I see your point, my statements are too forceful. I acknowledge that I should have been more graceful and phrased them as questions. Thank you for the advice. Furthermore, I am sorry to hear about your health and I hope there’s a way for things to get better for you in the future.

> I read your message carefully and I am stil pretty confident about the inferences I made.

Aka a non-apology apology. Now that you have asked and I have told you you still stick to your guns? Really, that's just weird.

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I’ll be frank, I read your message carefully and I am stil pretty confident about the inferences I made. However, I see your point, my statements are too forceful. I acknowledge that I should have been more graceful and phrased them as questions. Thank you for the advice. Furthermore, I am sorry to hear about your health and I hope there’s a way for things to get better for you in the future.

> I read your message carefully and I am stil pretty confident about the inferences I made. Aka a non-apology apology. Now that you have asked and I have told you you still stick to your guns? Really, that's just weird.

Ok, let me be clear: I apologize for being too forceful, but I still think your comment is very patronizing and I won’t apologize for that.

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Some demand for workers scales well, virtually unlimited. Yet many are not. And as tech quickly takes more and more jobs, older workers contribute to the competition for shrinking demand for human labor. Now advances in tech may continue to increase demand for workers elsewhere, once training and workers catch up. Or maybe not as much as roles are lost.

So what if demand scales differently. Should foreigners go back home to leave jobs to nationals? Should women stay home to leave jobs for men? Unless you answer yes to those, why would you choose another arbitrary category like age to do the same? I hope you're never old with people around you that think the same as you think now. Either you can do the job or not.

I didn't choose the category, the question was why not work late in life. I proposed one likely downside.

As to immigration and women and others, it can be argued the end game of every able bodied adult working until death is quite dark -- even if it begins with most of them finding some enjoyment in it.

When I'm old I hope my family encourages me to find joy and meaning outside employment, once the finances have been secured for retirement.

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I followed my left-leaning parents' advice to get paid for doing something I love. But luckily for me I love coding.

Same, lol. I love coding and startups. We hit the jackpot.

We did, didn't we? Sadly most intellectual loves aren't as monetarily rewarding as programming has been for the past three decades.

Re: A Caltech Nobel laureate celebrates his 100th birthday, then gets back to work

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I’ve been fortunate enough to know a few older people who really loved their work and were excellent at it. All of them had one thing in common: they didn’t want to retire. Meanwhile all of my peer group is obsessed with FIRE and dream of retiring early. All of us are also involved in pretty meaningless work that has no measurable impact on the world (five lines of code to a million line codebase is hardly world chan…

It's not work that sucks. It's having to work that sucks.

Bingo. People pay thousands of dollars for the mere option of buying or selling 100 shares of a stock a few years in the future at roughly the price it is now.

I imagine there would be folks willing to pay a lot more for their future options, if such an options market existed.

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